I’m really thinking about creating a “Rafale vs. Eurofighter battlefield” topic so that people stop arguing in more thoughtful topics.
Almost wanted to right that one down in my previous message
You read my mind X)
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I would but I’m already on thin ice with forum bans and I can’t afford another incident
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Isn’t Scorpion originally American though? Dont get me wrong I’m sure it was changed to work with Rafale better, with the stuff it displays and everything, but it should be a copy paste US Scorpion no?
the Scorpion is from Thales, thus making it French :). Im not sure if any of the HMD’s the US use are domestic, cause the JHMCS is from Elbit.
welp I done it.
here you go
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JHMCS is from Raytheon and Elbit
And Scorpion was originally from US company, but then Thales bought the HMD part of the company. I know this because I’ve asked a related question before (is the scorpion HMD on ANG F-16 the same Scorpion HMD on Rafale?)
Somethings violently wrong with the Rafales max G-load:
It quite easily survives 20g+ pulls with varied fuel loads and full MICA loads, well above gaijins stated 1.5x max G-load multiplier, which would need to be 16.4G irl to match the G-loads its able to pull and survive in-game.
It seems the only real limiting factor this airframe has are the lift limits and speed limits of the wings.
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Finally
The thing is Scorpion HMD has unique design thus it deserves to be modelled.
Compare to JHMSC it features fully carbon fiber and smaller design, thats why Rafale should get its unique pilot model.
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Oh ok, that’s what you meant. Yeah, scorpion equipped jets should have different pilot models
@k_stepanovich Will we ever see implementation of multiple search beams for AESA radars? AESA radars are capable of having multiple radar beams for searching in modes such as TWS.
Multiple search beams can even be seen here in this Captor-E AESA radar video at 1:41
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just saying not an official channel, nothing points to it being copied from sth official either
Not to mention the capabilties need to be proven for every radar that they are capable of it
Its a real marketing video, just hosted on someone’s channel.(used to be on their website iirc)
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Careful, using EFT sources to bug report the Rafale might break the space-time Continuum :P
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When academic literature sources talk about AESA radars and its features, its understood to apply to AESA radars in general. So it is the rule rather than the exception. Luckily the source describing AESA radars having multiple beams for space exploration is written directly by multiple Thales/Thomson-CSF engineers who make the RBE2 radars (Thomson-CSF became Thales).
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I think that has to do with how gaijin handles G-overloads now. It seems to not matter how many G’s are pulled, it’s how long you are pulling over the structural limit. Pre-nerf EF could also do this with SB controls, even now with SB controls and trim it can pull way harder than the instructor allows. All this is to say the crazy G pulls are not uniquely a Rafale problem.
Interesting theory… Unfortunately for you, its pretty unlikely.
Set the fuel load to 56% (same proportion of fuel as on the Rafale at 20min) and blew both wings clean off.
Every other jet I tested (F-15E, F-16C, Su-27SM, J-10A) survived the test, but unlike the EFT and Rafale, they can’t pull nearly as hard.
Could in theory argue that the F-15E/16C are pulling more than their supposed limits too I guess (stated 9.0g x 1.5 = 13.5G in-game limit), but seeing as both those planes are “only” pulling 15.3G and 16.1G, those could technically fall within limits if gaijin has docs stating the structural limits of each is 11G (not overly farfetched, but afaik not true). Su-27 test wasnt shown since it doesnt have a G-load indicator in the HUD.
The Rafale though, is most definitely pulling WELL above any possible structural limits any real document may state it to have. On the “low” end of the G’s I’ve routinely survived with the jet (21.1G), it would reliable documentation for a structural limit of 14.07G. On the high end (24.6G), it would need a reliable documentation for a structural limit of 16.4G, which is just about at the 16.5G it should be snapping its wings at in-game, seeing as its structural limit is stated to be 11G in emergencies.
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With some update gaijin made it “pull more and wait”
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