Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance - Part 2

Crazy how the British armies are both considered one of the more experience NATO army and simultaneously is often publicized because of its desperate lack of funding

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Not a lot of discussions recently, so I figured I’d post some updates from a parliamentary report :

A new Meteor (MLU) is planned to enter service in 2030. We can probably expect new software and MICA NG derived seeker, though this is not confirmed.

Meteor MLU

Because the Etat Major de l’Armée de l’Air et de l’Espace thinks that the Russian and Chinese are going to or have matched the performances of the meteor, they also have plans for an even longer range “Comete” missile to enter service in 2030

Comet

Rafale F5, planned for around 2025 (or the Stratus missile, it’s not very clear what they are referring to), is going to get T rex engines engine without the UAE involvement. It will also be deployed with a new SEAD weapon (using IR guidance ?). It will have the conformal fuel tanks and “improved weapon carrying capacity”, probably using the fuel tanks pylons for weaponry.

Rafale F5

As for drone buddies, they plan to have different tiers of drones accompanying the Rafale, some more expandable than others. The neuron successor visibly being the “high end” version. Testing is to occur before 2030.

UCAV

Meanwhile, the
NGF/SCAF is planned for its first flight in 2031 instead of 2030, no matter the results of the mediation with the germans

NGF

and last, sadly for @Macron-Spokesman, the Stratus is planned to enter service only in 2035

Stratus

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If they take this long i hope they at least figure out how to get a sub launched variant from the get go

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What would be the battle rating of an early Rafale variant?
Like LF.1, F.1 or F.2

Same as M2k-5F I would say.

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So 14.0? I guess that makes sense. Without the hmd I assume?

Yea, plus just base RBE2 (PESA).

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Interesting, though I was told that the PESA/AESA doesn’t make a difference in game due to how ESA radars are modelled?

pesas in game usually have lower vertical angles and they can’t give datalink updates for targets outside the scan area

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yes they can

but there are limits to it
the N011M on the Su-30 can only do it in a ±45° area bc thats the FOV of the radar

it dosent
only difference in case of the rafale might be radar range

Not even. RBE2 AESA is so nerfed that the only feature it has is the ±70° scan zone. It has a RBE2 PESA range or barely better. RBE2 AESA should have a max search radar scope with 220km at bare minimum since from what i can recall Rafale can catch Airliners at 220km of range. Thing is it is not precised if 220km is a lock range or detection range.
Instead of always adding the next technological step Gaijin should seriously consider fixing existing stuff.

and airliners are much bigger than fighter jets
thats not a good metric for WT

by that metric the N035 on the 30SM2 is also giga nerfed since it isnt able to pick up fighters at 400km

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i can’t make a su-30sm2 keep datalink on targets outside the scan area, meanwhile on gripen E/aesa euros they keep datalink no matter how far away the scan area is from the target

It’s 225km for 5m^2 with range velocity so just detection of fighter targets at those ranges.

bc those are overperforming, as a result of them having a scan zone that is the whole ±120° and gaijin not being able to make the TWS ESA zone smaller as a result
AESAs IRL are not able to have a higher FoV than ±70°

the N035 is correctly modeled with only being able to update targets in a ±60° area

Spoiler

how are they overperforming? AESAs are able to keep track within their entire ±100 degrees zone

Tracking targets is way different than electronic scanning though.

AESAs are not able to update a target on 90° on the left when the antenna is pointing to the right

and in that regard they are overperforming in WT incase of the EF and Gripen

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this is fully arb or mixed with grb?

To add to this, AESAs can still do TWS or track-while-scan on targets 90 degree to the left while antenna is pointing to the right because it eventually goes back to the targets and scans/tracks them again. So tracking in this sense is not that of keeping a constant beam on target, but more similar to what we see as TWS on mechanical radars.

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