Cypriot M47 Patton - "The Trojan Tank"

People changed their preference or something and now most people voted for another TT, so Israel no, Cyprus then no, Greece then also no, because now they are connected, turkey even more no, so basically it would go to nowhere then, i don’t think gajing will replace Greece and Cyprus as subtt with (chile-philiphines-singhapore) or eventually iran, UAE, Azerbaijan as subtt for Israel. If we could only see how many players from Greece and Cyprus agree for their subtt being in israeli TT. People stopped complaining at this point, last complains were however at dividing Singapore into multiple TTs.

Quite sad, i said some history, but it was removed, even history is censored.
Maybe instead i should give links to sources, but what if links to history are being removed also, oh humanity where are you going.

I actually haven’t seen this picture before! I’m also still waiting on a response relating to some other images that haven’t been posted publicly before.

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i actually found it when i was image searching and show me war thunder live WT Live // Camouflage by Evpilot ( i removed the Greek one and i use this one in my Japanese m47)

Interesting… im saving that WT Live link for later (also gonna play Japanese M47)

Here it is:

If memory serves me correctly, the placards on site do not tell the same story as the book.

More Pictures:

See

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I saw a turkish commander talking about it, he said it hit a landmine iirc. Its in the interview I linked. It was either that or just a mechanical problem

You can listen the story from this tanks Driver and Gunner in this video near tank with english subtitles.

The Auto-translated subtitles don’t work for me, so I recommend using the transcript feature in the video’s description and putting that into google translate ^^

Petrou Vasileios is a named Cypriot historian who documented the events, not an anonymous blog post.

No there is a not any Cypriot Historian with this name. Link bio please.

“Armor on Cyprus” is a published book, even if written by a model enthusiast, the rules cite “published books” as valid secondary sources. The Book itself also upholds publisher citations and reference guidelines.

He is a Greek model maker guy, otherwise if you have evidence link please.

The War Thunder wiki being used only for specifications (not for the historical narrative) is not ideal as a spec source, but can be allowed.

Its Warhunder Wikipedia M47 Page, no connection with topic.

The suggestion rules require sources to be unrelated and reliable, they don’t require neutral-party-, or both sides-corroboration for every historical claim, especially for an obscure local engagement where documentation is inherently limited.

  • Petrou Vasileios is a named Cypriot historian who documented the events, not an anonymous blog post.
  • “Armor on Cyprus” is a published book, even if written by a model enthusiast, the rules cite “published books” as valid secondary sources. The Book itself also upholds publisher citations and reference guidelines.
  • The War Thunder wiki being used only for specifications (not for the historical narrative) is not ideal as a spec source, but can be allowed.

The vehicle physically exists on display. The core suggestion (a real captured M47 operated by Cypriot forces) is not in dispute, only the kill count and its surrounding story.

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A) WT Wiki is a valid source for the vehicles specifications, since it would be identical to the one in game. Its not ideal, but it is allowed.
B) Balkan Dave’s note doesn’t mean anything, especially when I’ve already spoken about the contested nature of the Battle of Skylloura.
C) You try to invalidate my source on Armor of Cyprus, with a claim thats unsubstantiated. That also means you are trying to invalidate a source used on T-34-85 Suggestion, and the Marmon-Herrington Mk IVF Suggestion.
D) A source that is “skeptical” on it doesn’t mean the source is invalid.
E) This wiki/source you used, uses the “Armor on Cyprus” source you are arguing is invalid. You are contradicting yourself.

Bio, him on TV, his first presentation of the book

The burden of evidence is on you. He published a book on the topic. I never said his role, so the burden of proof is on you. Even then, this doesn’t invalidate a published secondary source. I guess because I have a model Aircraft, I’m not allowed to be a source on anything aircraft related?

It does when the post includes M47 Specifications

(where the source is used ^^)

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Its Drosos

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Drosos Konstantinos with the other members of the crew on top of the M47 (would be a cool profile picture )

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Corrected, ty ^^

the commander of the tank Drosos Konstantinos says 5 M-47 were destroyed meanwhile Andreas Apolstolou the secondary driver claims 8 tanks were destroyed «Έτσι καταστρέψαμε πέντε τουρκικά άρματα»: 51 χρόνια μετά τον Αττίλα, Έλληνας μαχητής αφηγείται - CNN.gr

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also by the same source «Έτσι καταστρέψαμε πέντε τουρκικά άρματα»: 51 χρόνια μετά τον Αττίλα, Έλληνας μαχητής αφηγείται - CNN.gr the crew named the tank " Μαρμάρω " that i dont thing there is a good translate to English

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μαρμάρω - SLANG.gr?

no this is totally random

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i am doing a lot of research to find out why they name it that ( strange name) and i am founding more pictures


also official document that says the destruction of 5 tanks

Spoiler

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Can you send the source for said document in DM?

My best guess for now its that Μαρμάρω its feminine word of the Greek word Mάρμαρο, Marble in English