That isn’t an excuse. “Other things are bad, so this bad thing doesn’t matter actually” All of that bothers me. Secondly, Just have them in different categories within the Germany line, no mishmashing allowed. No West Germany vehicles with East Germany vehicles. EZ
I can agree on the mish mash of variants but there’s a point where trying to follow realism and historical accuracy too much starts to upend enjoyment of the game and balance. Several of the subs were needed to bulk up lineups or fill in gaps. Same goes with the two Germany’s.
I mean I guess but looking at tier 5 TT, all but 2 jets are ww2 and the only east German ground vehicle at that tier is the BMP-1. Not to mention would this allow Swiss vehicles?
Also in RB, this wouldnt prevent East and West German vehicles working in tandem as long as one of each were on the same team (if I’m reading this correctly)
I feel that the need to “bulk up” lineups is a problematic solution to a problem that can be fixed by itself. Just don’t allow overstock ala "no more than two mbts or medium tanks per lineup, and one of everything else. As for the “gaps”, often they don’t need filling. Br is subjective and vehicles maybe a whole br lower than what you’re going for is more than adequate already.
Thats fine. They don’t really need more. But if you would want another, there’s the Hawker Seahawk Mk 101
T-54, T-55, ZSU-57-2, Shilka easy additions. And there is also BRDM-1 based 9P111 missile tank destroyer. All around the same br. East German Army also operated T-34-85, IS-2, SU-85, SU-100, 2S1, 2S3, and BMP-2.
Thats a different problem with its own solution, but even so, it would be much better in my mind than the lineup mishmash.
The main point is wouldn’t it be ahistoric to have ww2 jets alongside post war ground vehicles? Not to mention that if ww2 Germany cannot be used by either side, West Germany has 0 planes to as either air defence or Cas.
Some vehicles perhaps, not all. There’s also the issue of no better way to “rank” a vehicles strength as doing by manufacture date would result in several vehicles across every tree suddenly finding it to tough to cope and even if they can, would be severely outclassed by other options.
I’ll give you that, although that would probably need a TT rework but that’s long overdue due regardless.
I personally would not mind this very much. CAS isn’t the point of ground, after all, so it’d be silly to me that someone would be that upset about it.
If im reading this correctly, I would simply find a better way to rank vehicles than doing it by manufacture date. And not all vehicles would need to have a “good rank” because plenty of vehicles are very weak for their BR still. Not much would change.
IMO the whole concept of how tech trees work should be reworked, but thats something for another day.
The issue is at that tier, West Germany would not only be unable to do cas, but also to prevent it via aircraft. Now imagine fighting against nations like USSR, France, UK and USA, all able to use cas at that tier without any subtrees. West Germany would be put at a very noticeable disadvantage as it cannot utilise any aircraft while other nations can.
So we would still have the br system?
Again the point is that there’s already this much compromise for Germany, now imagine it for several other nations with different eras/factions and subtrees.
my god. its what the chinese were terrified of!
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BvvD said we’d get the Thai VT-4 later (RU Dev Stream for Tusk Force). Smin said that it won’t come in The Next Major Update (which at the time was Tusk Force).
Ye I know but when I ask him about how about the update after Tusk Force. He simply showed me the same screenshot
someone needs to change their name to Chinese Abrams
Not every nation has to be symmetrical. And Germany has its own distinct advantages like the Leopard 1. Not every lineup should be doing everything you could possibly do.
Yeah, to an extent, you have to have one in one way or another
Another problem thats only a problem because of a bigger problem that it sits on. I have an entire overhaul of this entire game that would make the matchups, researching, tech trees, subtrees, game modes, maps, and objectives that would only make the game better, but I know that Gaijin will never do that. So I’m asking for the very bare minimum that would either make RB remotely fun or playable again, or to make a new tier between sim and rb.
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If anything the leo 1 is a disadvantage
Especially the first one
Can they correct the suspension data on the Type 10 (been bug reported several time’s the poor thing needs a bit of love)? currently it’s using the weisel’s causing it to be extremely rocky
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The problem with saying stuff like this is that it sounds good on paper, but it’s never going to mesh well with PVP. In PVE, yes, I agree.
Like, your sentiment is relatable. I personally think it was a mistake to make tech trees coincide with nations to begin with. Tech trees should have been multi-national (which we’re getting anyway, only in a less coherent fashion because it wasn’t planned this way from the beginning).
But that ship sailed years ago. Now we have this legacy system and we have to live with it. People in this game already bitch and moan all the time when they think they’ve been put at a disadvantage (true or not). You’re proposing a system where one of the most popular trees in the game would have no CAS or CAP at some of the most popular BRs in the game. Don’t you see why a game dev would never seriously consider something like that?
Because it’s half wrong. Vehicles having the same moments of inertia is not a strange thing at all, see: Tank Moments of inertia 2.49.0.34 - Pastebin.com
The moments of inertia is the problem with it, don’t get me wrong, but you have to bug report it without using datamines.
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I see, I updated the bug report to remove the datamines so hopefully gaijin can look into this and start cracking down of the problem
Thank you gszabi :D
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I Hope we will see after the new Update some Turkish and Polish Stuff (Not gap filler Vehicles or sub-trees) I mean Standalone Trees because These two Nations have so much potential
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