Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

Right but adjusting the length should give the correct results even if the 3D model is incorrect.

The current length of the PL-12 is correct and doesn’t need changing. I didn’t adjust the CXK factor because the existing modifications are already sufficient to meet the design targets.
The SD-10’s performance needs to be calculated separately because I don’t have its propulsion parameters. However, it appears its CXK factor also doesn’t need changing at this point.

If you mean SD-10A, remember SD-10A = PL-12.

I thought pl-12 is currently represented as sd-10, as sd-10 = pl-12 in game, when it should be sd-10 <-pl-12=sd-10a

The current PL-12 can be thought of as an SD-10A airframe loaded with the SD-10’s range specifications and propulsion parameters. This is why you’ll notice the PL-12’s final mass is a bit too high.

Therefore, we could either simply subtract 18kg from the existing missile and adjust its length data to turn it into an SD-10, or modify the propulsion to make it an SD-10A.

Since the latter option doesn’t require changing the 3D model, I lean towards that approach.

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I saw an issue regarding the AAM-4’s engine get accepted, so I wrote one for the PL-12 as well.
PL-12 Incorrect Engine performance // Gaijin.net // Issues
P.S. Based on the data from the AAM-4 issue, the PL-12’s motor would be both longer and heavier than the AAM-4’s, yet my estimated propellant mass is lower. I might be underestimating the PL-12’s performance, but I lack sufficient evidence, like the motor’s volumetric capacity.

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What aircraft carries pl-12ae?

Id wager any aircraft capable of using the default PL-12 would be able to use the PL-12AE,
but the only aircraft I’ve seen with it are some Chinese drones
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You didn’t mail them a whole pl12 for testing so it’s not a bug

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J-10CE and some drones.

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Some unknown missile(red one) on FTC-2000
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That’s a PL8 mockup no? Quite clear with the absolutely huge and almost distinctive tail fins of P-3 series.

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whats the difference in the PL-12 vs the AE variant?

Pl-12 is 100km range, pl-12ae is 125 km

so its more of a mid tier missile like the R-77-1, late AIM-120C. better than the early fox 3s but still outclassed by the cracked modern fox 3s like PL-15, R-37M and AIM-120D etc?

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The PL-12AE uses the same Rocket motor as the PL-15E but without dual pulse functionality and has larger control surfaces. So its more optimized for close to medium ranges


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When considering LOFT at 10,000 meters and Mach 1.2, the approximate relative range relationship of these missiles is as follows:
Aim-120B < SD-10 < AIm-120C-5 = PL-12 < Aim-120D = PL-12AE < R-37M < Aim-260 < PL-15 < PL-16 < PL-17

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where are you getting your range figures for aim260?

AVIC has published a paper that analyzes the kinetic performance of the AIM-260 based on image-based measurements, with authors from the PLA and the Luoyang Missile Academy.



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thats not very reputable not to mention it falls quite below what were the targets for the program and statements on the weapon