We really don’t need any new missiles, if they just adjusted pl12’s to what they’re supposed to be they’ll stay competitive.
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Well hopefully
Apparently Gaijin said that while there is evidence to suggest PL-12 is not SD-10, they say that without concrete range figures it will be hard for them to adjust the PL-12’s performance.
The existing data is sufficient for Gaijin to accurately model the PL-12/SD-10A.
Simply reduce the terminal body mass to approximately 128kg, increase the total engine impulse to above 160kNs (corresponding delta-V exceeding 1000m/s), then adjust other parameters such as guidance duration based on achieving approximately 100km range under launch conditions of 10,000m altitude, 1.2 Mach head-on engagement.
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Only issue is it again says a type of ARH AA missile and not PL-12.
203mm caliber, 3.9m length, and 200kg weight correspond to PL-12 or SD-10A, while SD-10 weighs 180kg with 3.8m length, and PL-12A weighs 214kg.
Is it known to be shorter? Or is this unofficial sources.
Data sourced from early airshow display boards and an interview with SD-10 deputy chief designer Liang Xiaogeng: SD-10 measures 3.85m in length, 0.203m in diameter, 0.674m wingspan, with total weight of 180kg. Operational altitude 0-25km, maximum speed Mach 4 (achieving 38G maximum usable overload at Mach 4/6,000m altitude). At 10km altitude with 1.2 Mach head-on engagement, maximum launch distance reaches 70km.
Do u have the source for that?
Also do u have where this source comes from? The graph as in.
I can only cite the source: “Authoritative Report on China’s Most Advanced Active Radar Air-to-Air Missile - Interview with SD-10 Deputy Chief Designer Liang Xiaogeng” [J]. Ordnance Industry Science Technology, 2004(5):17-23.
However, I regret that I currently cannot provide screenshots of the original article.
edit：I’ve located the original article, though the image clarity might be suboptimal.
How about the chart of the stats?
Do u have the original article?
by Fan Huitao, the second chief designer of the PL-12.
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We could give it a try
But I do think we need more sources
With AIM-120C-5 being potentially considered for addition to Eurofighter and now already added to F-15E, we should push for it.
it’s time to restart the old topic about changing current PL-12 to SD-10 and remake current PL-12.
Yes, we should do it now
post what we have above as well,
too busy these days.
Then maybe I can try when I have the time
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Please do
I’m going to go ahead and draft one just to see what sources we’ve got.
The interview mentions some information about SD-10A, such as its 100km range capability.
Also it mentions that the delta-V of SD-10 (not SD-10A) is over mach 3 (1020m/s).
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