thats why im trying to work on right now, good news is that its pretty comprehensive so hopefully it has all the info we need.
ill edit this message as i find more useful info, but much of it is hard to comprehend without an understanding of the language or technical meaning so i might need help…
DOCUMENT Title:
-Project draft
Manual for crew
Main battle tank 60 (VT- 4)
By the Cavalry Center
project officer
Col. Supharuk Jeenjankit
Achievements in developing the military ethos of the Royal Thai Army.
Year 2022, annual budget 2023
(for inspecting work)
Gun playing speeds(pages 19 for electric drive, and 69 for aiming rate)
traverse rate maximum 30°/s
elevation rate 5-7°/s
Main performance and parameters of autoloader(page 151)
Ammunition reload rate: 7 - 9 rounds/minute(6.7 seconds at best)
MAIN PERFORMANCE PARAMETER Transmission(page 273)
Specific characteristics of the speed changer
A. Model: Hydraulic mechanism combined speed changer.
B. Gear position: 6 gears forward and 2 reverse
ARMOR PROTECTION(page 512)
Basic and normal armor:
Also protects against penetration by armor piercing (AP) rounds.
Uniform rolled armor, 550 mm thick, RHA value.
Prevents penetration of anti-tank (HEAT) explosive shells.
With armor rolled into a uniform thickness of 750 mm.
RHA value
FY-II reactive armor: Protects against penetration by armor-piercing (AP) rounds.
≥ 750 mm.RHA
Prevents penetration of anti-tank grenade shells.
(HEAT) ≥ 1,300 mm. RHA
Edit: alright guys, this is all the useful info i was able to scarp up with some help, but feel free to dig though the source yourself!
No, they mentioned in the manual that Thailand VT-4 use the same electrical control system. For the Pakistan video, they show the maximum speed of the stabilizer.
I can’t seem to find anything on that link. What was your bug report about specifically? I’ve been working on one for fixing the top shell we use but am currently vetting the primary source of the shells datasheet to make sure it’s safe to include. The current shell we use, DTC10-125 is incorrect, the real DTC10-125 is the 125-III which only the WZ, VT-4, and 99A can use with the modified cannons for the higher pressure; this shell can penetrate 680mm at 2000m and had it’s datasheet leaked in the past. The current shell we have in game is actually the DTW-125 (125-II) which can pen 600mm at 2000m. I have 2 secondary sources on this but am waiting on a decision on if the primary source of the DTW-125 datasheet is safe to use and not considered restricted.
about the Post-Composited Rod, the little tungsten carbide core in the tail of round, it has better penetration ability than noraml integrated bullet core
im sorry, i can seem to find that exact segment, what page is it on exactly? one of my main interests is trying to find the maximum value of horizontal speed for the turret, and vertical speed for the gun.
While you are here, what is the protocol on ammunition datasheets for bug reports? I have an image of the DTW-125 ammunition datasheet I would like to use in my bug report but don’t know if it is allowed since the DTC10-125 datasheet was a leak.
only the main length or inculding the other part which can also do puncture?
edit: if only need main part, how we can get the tungsten carbide core’s penetration capability, or how we can know the tungsten carbide core’s penetration capability? you know that it may be the only round using post-composited rod
Ok, thank you for the explanation. Using the secondary source data the 125-II should be able to pen ~770mm at 0m based off the formula used. But I still am confused on the DTW-125 datasheet. We know the DTC10-125 datasheet is a leak. But I am asking about the DTW-125 datasheet, I can link you where I grabbed the image from (another forum discussing MBT ammunition) or I could DM it. A primary source is always preferred for bug reports, so this datasheet would help if allowed.
i do, but the finding show that the independent tungsten carbide core part has a better penetration than normal ones, so isnt that means we need to count it independently
The finding : 后置组合杆体侵彻机理研究 (you can download the finding PDF yourself)
How do you know if it is legally available? The image was originally posted on Weibo and then the forum re-uploaded a copy of the image. Translating the datasheet in the image, there are no classified/restricted markings on it; the document itself just covers the basics of the ammunition and the handling instructions. There is an inspection stamp in red saying: 已松本检查 682 which translates into saying it was inspected by persons surname. To me, I do not see anything that would make me believe it was restricted.
