Missle-Counter-Missle
Simply put, to shoot down a missile, you fly towards it and fire another missile.It doesn’t require any skills.
Congrats btw you posted the 2000th message! Hope it brings some good luck 🎉
2000 messages of fighter cope getting shot down easier than the bombers theyre coping about
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I didn’t say the rocket was the effective solution in real life.
The R4M probably was the most effective solution they found, they managed to down plenty of bombers using it
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Most of these things that you are criticizing have been factors of the damage model since forever.
These are specifically a bomber problem right now because it is the only airframe in the game that will survive unrealistic amounts of damage. Missiles, rockets, and guns will easily reach kill conditions on fighters in the game even if they are not pure 1:1 of what realistic damage would be.
This is something I have covered at length in other threads related to gun damage. A more realistic system is not simply “make planes more durable” but would largely just shift the cause of death from losing complete control/lifting surfaces to being unable to control the plane with the damage taken by surfaces while they remain attached, or damage control surfaces detaching under load, and fires being basically a death sentence in most cases.
I think this is a perfectly fair characterization given what the trajectory have been the thread has been. Or similar reactions on reddit.
There are hundreds of posts here to the effect that the current damage model is realistic.
This was the reaction to Gaijin increasing the fire chance on the dev server. They made the damage model slightly less invulnerable insofar that now you can set 4 fires to a plane and it will still probably be fine and put out a majority of them.
Heck you even have players coming in here and still defending the Day 0 model.
Nevermind the fact that the Air to Air rockets also do not destroy bombers.
That is not to mention the countless cases of players just running their own ideas through an LLM and then quoting whatever garbage it spits out as gospel truth. Or the countless bad-faith arguments made by the same posters.
Note that the movable control surfaces are fabric covered.
There are no movable control surfaces in this picture. It is the vertical stabilizer of an He.111.
So what should we believe? The AI generated output from someone who lacks basic reading comprehension? Or real world testing?
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Buddy that looks like a control surface, we’ll believe the real world testing against this control surface lol, and in war thunder the control surfaces get blown apart, so its accurate there
And you literally just read the AI result which I posted and literally said was wrong, and took it at face value, thinking the tail controls of the he111 are fabric covered. Youre hilarious man keep going
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Prove its a control surface then.
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this is rich when its being argued about a type of aircraft who’s entire gameplay loop is flying in a straight line and pressing spacebar a couple times.
Is this the only clip you have? do it consistently. I triple dare you.
Does the testing I did proving that bombers are effectively unkillable in the current dev server mean nothing???
Hello?
Why the heck would you ever trust AI with literally anything?
Also, you still haven’t shown any evidence of consistent 1 pass kills on bombers that you claim is possible.
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“the ai chat bot thats programed to always take my side says ur dumb” lmfao u can’t be a real person
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Whose fault is it that the bomber gameplay loop is flying in a straight line and pressing spacebar, the players or what gaijin decided was adequate?
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Which post btw
Flying in a straight line and dropping bombs is what they did in real life do you want realism or not?
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I think it was the ai iq post lmao, it struck a nerve for someone
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that was their “gameplay” loop in real life too though?
Even if Gaijin went to a Nuclear Escalation style of game at WW2 tiers that would still be their entire gameplay loop lmfao.
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Lol
If so, so what? That doesn’t prevent them from receiving the empowerment they are entitled to.
And you guys are fighting against slightly altering the fighter gameplay loop from climb, click on a bomber, get a kill