Squadron wouldnt be a bad idea, its like the m1a1 aim in terms of a nations main vehicle in service with another. Besides it look pretty cool and could help replace some of the other challys
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Still though. That would give us 3 different versions of upgraded Chally’s.
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Another image of the 2E in greece, showing the upgraded CITV and an alternative camo scheme.
(The middle of the pic got lost in the centrefold of the booklet during the scan)
This is Greek. The camouflages are similar but this is Greek, like these other ones:
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This is the only other pic I’m aware of showing the 2E with the distinctive 4-tone linear camo.
Challenger 2E needs its own folder with the 3 variants, CR2E, CR2E GR, CR2E SA (potentially at the end of the SA line).
New lineup that would be universally pretty competitive.
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How do you know it’s South African? It’s the same as below, and it’s for sure not a South African camouflage, and looks very similar to the Greek one (looks like the US MERDC). (The trees in the background also do not look South African, they look like pine/fur, which are present all around Greece).
Edit: Is it not the same camouflage as below (tested in Greece)?
Sorry, I should have been more clear. People parrot online that it was part South African MBT trials but there is essentially no proof or documentation to it.
It’s a similar but distinctly different camo to the greek trials, which has a splotched camo pattern, whereas the ‘South African’ one has a continuous linear camo pattern. You can see the difference clearly on the right side of the turret.
It’s also a different configuration to the greek trials 2E, because it’s commander sight is the same as the base Challenger 2.
Some scans of the photo in other documents, without the fold
Notably, the CR2E demonstrator had a driver’s vision enhancer camera at this point in time, in the aperture between the headlights
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You know gaijin is now going to model it without any ufp armour around the driver to make room for the camera.
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I agree, Britain currently lacks a top-tier squadron vehicle and this would be a great candidate.
The only problem is, so far top-tier squadron vehicles have been a maximum BR of 11.3, whereas this would deserve 11.7, same as the current Chally 2E.
Maybe it could be 11.3 with only L26 instead of L27A1? Idk
Thanks, I appreciate these!
Depends if gaijin does ground br decompression. You’d have a hard time convincing me that besides sweden, italy, russia, and germany are the only ones with proper top tier tanks. All the big hull armor vehicles should probably be like 13.0 would also help with compression overall
I still can’t get used to the fact that Italy now has best MBT in game)))))
The engine upgrades are tricky cuz of so many conflicting sources and frankly malicious bug reports like the challenger 3 TD one recently. Using a House of Commons question which was not only wrong but a completely unfounded source. I was at tankfest. I spoke to the commander of Megatron in the tank park. He confirmed that challenger 3 has better turbos, cooling and a host of upgrades to make it to 1500hp whilst the current challengers in service could produce 1500hp with a couple of power pack upgrades which I believe mostly consists of the caterpillar defence upgrades. However it is frankly unclear exactly which parts are needed and what parts are currently on what.
What is clear is that gaijin fail to understand the different versions of the challenger 2 at a fundamental level. The challenger 3 TD they have in game is labelled as the 2 CSP I believe in the files. It could be the LEP. I am afk rn apologies.
BUT all of this aside which are just stuff that could be debated to the ends of the earth and frankly I have had that same discussion. way too many times. The same old problem is the root. FIX THE FUCKING GEARBOX AND TORQUE
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What is clear is that gaijin fail to understand the different versions of the challenger 2 at a fundamental level. The challenger 3 TD they have in game is labelled as the 2 CSP I believe in the files. It could be the LEP. I am afk rn apologies.
Yes, it’s in the files as the Chally 2 LEP.
The name change to 3 (TD) was last minute, most likely to try and curb the backlash of adding to a large pile of Chally 2s whilst not addressing their core issues.
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Would this Challenger 2 be called the:
Challenger 2
+1 more challys are appreciated