LOL.
Yak aircraft skin is not made of wood, suede or silk.
It’s made of alluminium.
Also M-geschoss fuses 100% reliably vs all fabric-covered biplanes we have in game. Maybe with exception of some Soviet flying wonders.
Also EVERY other 20mm HE fuses just fine vs literally everything. Only M-geschoss has such issues. How surprising.
THere’s 0 reasons for M-geschoss and MG131 IAI, Breda HEF and Japanese 30mm to have less sensitive fuses.
Its not entirely wood or alluminium, for example tail of Yak is made from plywood, wings are made from
wood.
Do you SERIOUSLY think that laminated wood (that’s a hard material, trust me) tough enough to be an important part of a fighter plane with 1000+HP engine capable of going over 600km/h is so soft and cuddly it won’t make a shell explode?
How so?
Also explain this:
There’s 1 other plane, that will not make M-geschoss fuse, that’s not Soviet, and almost nobody flies it - Mosquito.
The thing is - there’s literally 0 data indicating that it would NOT fuse M-geschoss.
Fabric covered Hurricane:
0.1 mm thick wood? that is what the game reports, very convenient wood I would say
Generally, the wood argument is invalid, since there’s 0 reason to not fuse anyway.
We can just set P-47 aircraft Skin to 0,2mm of aluminium, since aluminium is way softer than steel and be done with it too.
The problem is not “wood”, it’s that German fuse is set to 0,4mm of steel, while aircraft skin is set to 0,1 or 0,2mm.
plywood*
They all used plywood. La series used better material.
It used delta wood.
What is this? Seriously,is this some historical document? Some expert analysis? Did they talk like that during WW2? Tell me?
Or is that some random dude making some random statement?
Why Soviet, British, Japanese Swedish, American and French 20mm fuses have 0 issues when exploding while striking Soviet aircraft?
Do you realise MK108 explodes every damn time vs Yak?
Do you realise load-bearing (since Yaks are also semi-monocoque) plywood is way harder and tougher than fabric covering the frame? And I was aiming at the fabric. Gaijin didn’t even bother to modek the frame, since 20mm shells in this game explode reliably anyway…
…unless they are post 2019 M-geschoss.
Also Yak-3 structure is generally not made of anything soft. Plywood on hard wooden supports is tough. If it wasn’t - your Yak would fall apart.
I have found some biplanes that do not make M-geschoss explode, success!
Oh wait, they are Soviet.
Luckily no problem for other nations’ 20mm:
To sum it up - M-geschoss, Breda 12,7, 30mm HEF, MG131 IAI fail to explode vs plywood aircraft skin.
IMO this is an intended “bug”.
Of course He-162 “benefits” but only on super-rare occasions when it’s getting lit up by Italians.
Which doesn’t happen too often.
There’s 0 reason for the mentioned shells to NOT fuse on plywood skin, which is pretty tough material. There’s also 0 reason for the mentioned shells to have fuse sensitivity set to different value than every other MG and 20mm HE in game. There’s 0 data indicating these fuses were notoriously unreliable compared to competition.
plywood btw.
I will run tests once home. Theres kinda same topic on IL2Shturmovik forum and it describes plywood for being a good material that could take a punch.
I know Mosquito is made of wood, thank you for your insight. The thing is, it seems to be all set up so Soviet aircraft get additional edge vs German fighters.
Idk whats with your game.
ROFL I have LITERALLY told you MK108 has no issues. Stop responding in this thread, because you are NOT contributing to it in any positive way, due to your limitations.
Your screenshot has it passing right through.
Show me that screenshot.
I can only say:
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Since WHEN exactly does J7W1 Type 5 30mm use same ammo as MK108?
I even stated clearly Japanese 30mm has problems, not German.
You are clearly trolling at this point.
Leave.
I have shown you two results for japanse and german 30mm, open your eyes.
You little troll, and have you actually taken your time to see what Japanese 30mm shell I used?
Seriously, if this is not trolling, then you’re more dense than uranium.
And you posted Bf 109 K4 30mm hitting the wingspar as a proof of what exactly? Once again - I have clearly said MK108 has no problems.
Wonder why I have written “some” instead of “all Japanese 30mm HE”. Maybe because only SOME types are affected?
IT CANNOT BE.
Leave.
EDIT: You can even tell which types are affected just by looking at fuse sensitivity. But WHY BOTHER…
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