I can only say:
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Since WHEN exactly does J7W1 Type 5 30mm use same ammo as MK108?
I even stated clearly Japanese 30mm has problems, not German.
You are clearly trolling at this point.
Leave.
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I have shown you two results for japanse and german 30mm, open your eyes.
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You little troll, and have you actually taken your time to see what Japanese 30mm shell I used?
Seriously, if this is not trolling, then you’re more dense than uranium.
And you posted Bf 109 K4 30mm hitting the wingspar as a proof of what exactly? Once again - I have clearly said MK108 has no problems.
Wonder why I have written “some” instead of “all Japanese 30mm HE”. Maybe because only SOME types are affected?
IT CANNOT BE.
Leave.
EDIT: You can even tell which types are affected just by looking at fuse sensitivity. But WHY BOTHER…
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Yes others will be affected due to having higher fuze sensitivity.
Leave.
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If fuze is high enough, shells wont fuse of Ho229V3 wings for example, which are plywood as well.
It has something to do with plywood and not anything else.
Ns37 not fusing of plywood wing.
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Yes, I’ve already mentioned it’s a problem with plywood, but 99/100 cases are Fw 190/Bf 109/G.55/C.205 firing at Yak-3, La-5, La-7.
You failed to read this. Leave.
Wonder why Gaijin gave mostly axis guns low fuse sensitivity (as in: it takes a hard whack to detonate), if it basically only affects fights against Soviet aircraft?
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Plywood isnt exclusive to soviets.
Fuses are a thing you need to find documentation on.
Those documents probably were something Gaijin based it off. If not you re free to do a bug report.
(“omg is this allies bias based on fuse sensitivity omg”)
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He-162 being made of plywood makes no difference, since it super-rarely faces broken-fused axis shells and is not popular.
Horton is not popular.
Yak-3 and La-7 are most popular Soviet props and they are MOSTLY shot with MG151/20.
There’s a gigantic scale disparity.
There’s absolutely 0 historical indication of German fuses being inferior to allied, japanese or soviet. 0. Null.
Now, since you didn’t leave, welcome to ignore list, go waste somebody else’s time.
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So do you have documentation to prove it otherwise?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder?from-ts=1682888400&to-ts=1701377999
Im not suprised of such behavior at all xD.
While italian 20mm round goes through Yak 3 plywood wing, if same rounds hits alluminium wing of Yak 9P it fuses easily. Just how plywood is in the game. Just how axis fuses are in the game.
It happens even against your own aircraft
From a gameplay perspective this is unrewarding and limits to a degree many aircraft that use Mg151/20.
The fuze sensitivity should be 0.1mm just like all other impact fuzed rounds we have in-game.
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The protection analysis has always been broken for planes, and is not a good representation of what actually happens when you shoot another plane. I can say that in german planes, i have had no trouble shooting down soviet aircraft.
OK, fuse sensitivity can be data mined and is exactly the same in protection analysis. Aircraft skin thickness is also a parameter set by Gaijin. I see no reason for protection analysis to not be showing the truth here, especially since my experience of super-tanky soviet wooden planes confirms this.
Oh my god, that’s comedy gold. If only Gaijin knew about this they surely would have fixed it quickly…
…oh wait, I reported it years ago.
And yet there are 2 screenshots of the Japanese 30mm rounds doing completely different damages. I find that american planes are the tankiest, and russian planes are often as fragile as japanese planes, so anecdotal personal experience doesnt really prove or disprove anything
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Also just because there is a value that has been datanmined, doesnt mean that that is the be-all end-all of how it will interact in game, datamines are more misleading than anything else.
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These are 2 different Japanese 30mm shells, acelord.
Forum folk these days…
Hef-I vs Hef-T, and its the T that does the damage in the screenshot. Glad to see you are a petulant child though, and dont know how to converse politely. The point is that, if you think this is a bug, you are free to report it. If you think that it is intentional, then i dont think anyone can help you solve the issue.
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But then at this point you are doubting every source us players can get our hands on in order to report a bug when it comes to game mechanics lol.
But even ignoring it, it only makes sense that the german 20mm HEI should have the same value as the rest of impact fuzed rounds.
Yes and there’s also japanese rounds with wrong values in the game and one of them is also a fuze sensitivity issue that can be seen both in protection analysis and in-game.
30mm Type 5 HEF-I that has 0.3mm fuze sensitivity:
Spoiler
30mm Type 5 HEF that has 0.8mm fuze sensitivity:
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The 30mm HEF is currently behaving like a APHE round at most, it does not detonate unless hitting internal components. It will pass through any structural (i.e. wings, fuselage, engine housing etc.)
Very noticeable here:
https://streamable.com/x6ifa9
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