Ch’ŏnma-2 (2023) – Even better?

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I am very much looking forward to it joining the Chinese series as a North Korean main battle tank.


But one thing is that the main gun of this tank is not 125mm or 115mm. You can compare it by some details of the barrel, and so far no country has actually developed 125mm full ammunition. In a program in the “Detective Team” series of the Chinese media “Observer Network”, it was mentioned that the main gun ammunition of this tank is very similar to the 120mm smoothbore gun ammunition in the West.

Finally, we will promote a anime introduction book “Three Thousand Miles of Iron Riders” written by some Korean weapon enthusiasts in China.

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Iron Riders? I believe that “중기병” means “heavy cavalry” some kind.

Sorry,The original text does indeed mean heavy cavalry, but my translation software has some issues.
(laughing and crying)

North Korea have:
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I admit that the images are incredibly blurry and details are impossible to discern, but logically, this doesn’t make sense.

It would be actively detrimental for them to have a 120mm, as that’s 4 different calibres all in service – 100mm (T-54/55/Type 59), 115mm (Ch’ŏnma), 125mm (Sŏn’gun), 120mm.

It makes no sense they’d develop a 120mm cannon – it’s far more likely that it’s the 125mm, like almost all analysts have agreed (although some still suggest it’s a 115mm).

However, the 125mm fully loaded ammunition is very heavy. Considering the actual battlefield conditions and the physical condition of North Koreans, it will take a very slow time to load such heavy ammunition, which is very deadly on the battlefield (it may be preemptively attacked by enemy tanks). Although the KCNA has not disclosed the caliber, I personally have doubts about whether it is the 125mm caliber.

And so far, we cannot confirm whether North Korea possesses 125mm ammunition, because according to the introduction of the Immortal Red Star Society (the author group of the book above), the Xianjun 915 still has some modified 115mm caliber from the details of the gun barrel, and from the fact that the Korean People’s Army tank crew has always been composed of four people, it can be further confirmed that they have never obtained physical or technical 125mm ammunition.

Additionally, add another drone, the Morning Star 9 (although it looks quite similar to the MQ-9)


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The Chonma-2 has a lower front hull armor protection of around 100 - 200mm with a upper hull using a composite screen of around 300 - 500mm and the ERA 200 - 300mm of protection with the sides of the hull having around 200 - 400mm and the sides of the turret only having around 100 - 150mm of armor, the top of the turret has around 20mm - 50mm of protection

Source? 😂

In the absenve of data ,it maybe Possible to consider modifying the value of T72B3 and then attaching it to Chonma 2.
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Of course, if there are any, it’s another matter.
(。ò ∀ ó。)

The development of the tank is ongoing. Just now they are displaying a much improved sample featuring improved turret armor and APS.

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Looks like I have a new suggestion post to make…

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I feel like this is a fusion of K2 and Leclerc⊙_⊙
Let’s call it KimClaire (˃ 𖥦 ˂ )🇰🇵

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Looks like they removed the armour gaps on from the last one

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Yes the shape of the turret front armor is very reminiscing of its southern cousin.


However, compared with K2, it actually looks more like Altay in Türkiye and Leclerc in France
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Well, North Korea still makes a mess for naming tanks. The improved Cheonma-2 is now called Tianma-2

Reportedly it has a 3 man crew with autoloader. Wonder if its carrousel or bustle mounted.

Tianma (天馬) is Chinese for Ch’onma (천마). For some reason some news articles are using this Chinese name instead of the Korean one, they mean the same thing.

Thats good to know. I bet this started as a chinese report that got translated by people who didn´t do due dilligence.