Both PUMA's should be lowered in BR

A lot of nations dont have trophy, kinda feels like gaijin is staying away from them since they could make the game and said vehicles harder to balance when we get proper APFSDS blunting triphy systems.

The vehicles still exists, EVEN then its in service with the sepv2.
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Point still stands, US is not a throphy main user.
Germany has absolutly nothing to do eith you not getting it.

Gajin doesnt like APS in the first place.

You are crying here for the sake of crying

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Trophy has been evaluated with extensive testing on a Stryker vehicle, for possible adoption by the US Army, and a Canadian [LAV III]. The Army tested the Trophy system in 2017, to be fielded within two years as an interim system until the Modular Active Protection System (MAPS) program produces a system. A 193 million dollar contract for Trophy was awarded to [Leonardo DRS], Rafael’s American partner, in June 2018, to equip a significant number of Abrams M1A1/A2 MBTs with Trophy. In January 2021, Rafael and Leonardo DRS completed urgent deliveries of enough Trophies to the Army to equip all tanks of four armored brigades, some 400 systems.

Trophy isn’t American, it has been designed solely by Raphael, Leonardo DRS is only responsible for its distribution within the US. You have some strong confirmation bias, don’t you?

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Again i doubt its gaijin not wanting to add it for the sake of throwing a middle finger at the US but rather gaijin still waiting to add APS options to all nations. Remember the crying people gave when bull dozing was added and the USSR was the primary user for it and almost no other nation had it then to balance it they just nerfed digging into the ground? Seems like its not that crazy for gaijin to assume its gonna be another CAS of that.

wiki isnt a source. Leonardo DRS is an American company in control over the sensors and detection the went with the radar.
https://www.rafael-usa.com/programs/trophy/ says here
Final Trophy Active Protection Systems Delivered to U.S. Army | Leonardo DRS


America had a part. SURE we didn’t get are name on the wall, but you wouldn’t have it without our quality control and sensors.

Why isn’t Leonardo RDS being mentioned as a co-developer by Rafael then?

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abrams is germany because of the 120mm gun, every tank with the 105mm gun is british aswell.

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sensors yes, but the actual APS system the throphy part is completly isralian from RAFALE

I was slightly wrong on that i can agree, the American lav25 A2 is sourced from American company’s as an security measure. i will admit that. in all reality it was nato just copying each other and making other variants better for different areas of the world.

Prove that 2S38 and/or Puma never existed; cause there’s countless proof both do.
If you’re inclusive and of a scientific mind, you’ll drop your post’s bogus claim.

Nor does your posts’ bogus claims have anything to do with the improvements we want for Puma; they’re making our own stances seem less valid when someone’s post has overt misinformation about vehicles in it thinking they’re helping the vehicle of the topic.

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he said only the 2S38

you either confused it with the IAAPS
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or the CICM
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wich are the only american APS in existance

You’re absolutely insane if you think this is true. Germany gets clowned on by the devs so much most german mains have largely given up on anything ever being fixed for germany.

You think the bradley has issues? The Puma has over a dozen major bug reports open, and has had them open and approved for 2+ years at this point. Not small reports either, stuff like missing up to 85mm of RHA in certain locations, massive accuracy, post pen damage, and overheating issues, etc… the things a joke of a vehicle in WT.

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hey buddy, go find a Bradley thread, we know it’s bad, just go complain somewhere else

I bet you’re one of those people that claims the T-14 broke down on parade.

@Pacifica please remove this guy’s human rights

Getting clowned on for 3 hours
After said 3hrs saying “im trolling”
Switches to alt accounts

Insane dude

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i dont have alts, bean burrito is a friend of mine

fr we aint no alts