What does radar have to do with it? The F-15CGE, like the F/A-18E, has no speed. Have you ever flown an AIM-120? They don’t fly without initial velocity; they simply lose speed after a few dozen kilometers and crash.
What do you think of the F-15C’s 13.7 combat rating? It’s worse than the premium Su-30MK2 in every way. Or what about the F/A-18C Late’s combat rating? It’s just a joke: 14.0. A plane with no speed, no proper radar, flies 0.7 higher than the Su-30MK2.
Tell me you never flew Su-30 and F-15C without telling me.
F-15C’s acceleration,rate of climb and level flight speed is and dogfight capabilities are much better than Su-30’s.
Ah yes the only good thing about R77, meanwhile Aim-120’s time to reach target is much better while having less drag,more range and similiar agility.
F-16ADF shits on Su-30 in terms of flight performance, Fox-3 missiles, radar and dogfight capabilities.
In my opinion only thing ADF lacks is the Aim-9M which should already been added considering many planes at 13.0-13.3 is carrying IRCCM missiles.
Sorry but I don’t see any reasonable opinion that is coming from you.
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This is completely false, the 30mk2 is tons heavier and still retains the old engines, it is not faster than F15CGE and lacks the FM for even dogfighting or general Air Rb performance. F15C GE has 12 missiles and has actually higher top speed than the F15E. Stop spreading misinformation. And R-77s have trash range lmao, u can crank and watch those airbrake machines fall.
You guys are the same people who asked the ADF and MLU variants to get fox3s, Even tho they would have been better at 12.7, now deal with what you got.
Su30mk2 has 10 missiles, and 6 Fox3s being R-77s vs 6 aim120s… Go figure.
Please dont compare hornet and F15C in terms of speed. 15CGE has a mach2.25+ Top speed while the hornet tops at around 1.6
Do we need to get General Lee in here to convince you or what lol?
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LOLLLLL
WUTTTTT.
Is this next level of rage baiting or something?
What’s next you’re gonna tell me F-15E is worse than premium Su-30’s?
10/10 ragebait.
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It’s not ragebait thats the main issue here
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That’s even worse…
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the thread seems to cultivate stupidity & blatant ignorance
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Abrams lower plate is at least double the size of t seires, on top the t series dont have turret baskets that eliminate horizontal drive if it gets hit. So hes not wrong
I mean if you are exposing your whole lower plate as an Abram then something must have gone very wrong.
Yes, the map design, which seems to favor flat urban maps.
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There a lot more to it than just map.
Considering they are adding bigger and bigger map , yeah no. Map is definitely not the main reason
Map definitely is the main reason, how do i hide my lower front plate on sweden, advance to the rhine, and sun city???
Sure but you cant claim its easy to not expose Abrams LFP on maps such as Sweden, Sun City and Advance to Rhine when all of the important positions dont offer appropriate cover.
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I’ve never seen armor like that even on a top-tier vehicle. Even Hellfire can’t damage it.
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Maybe learning the map and check before path way that enemy have LOS to ?
I can claim that ? You listed 3 map when forgetting that those three map does offer route that you don’t necessary have to deal with enemy directly . Yeah worst case is Avance to the Rhine but then again that still 3 out of how many map top tier have.
When you exposing your LFP ,it is either your fault for exposing or you trying to gun dueling the enemy.
Which in both scenario the outcome would be 80% depend on the player.
Not saying CQC map does not benefit T series or they are weak. They do benefit from such map and they are strong but when you exposing your belly then there nothing to say. And I don’t think I can’t convince you so don’t bother answer this
Lots of excuses to not adress the main point lmao.
You asked how to avoid not showing yourself the answer is to check before advancing and learn the map. There is nothing else to talk about that, that just basic game knowledge if you want to not die instantly in any vehicle.
I can’t help you with that , you have to build those experience from just playing those map.
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Our point is you can be reckless with the t series tanks because you have to take a lot mroe time to aim then nato tanks. Theres no avoiding the fact the russian tanks in this game have a lot more protection then they should. Lets not even get into the fact you can shoot the carousel and the tank not go up in a ball of flames, but god forgive if you throw a rock at a terribly moddled turret basket on a nato tank
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Our point is you can be reckless with the t series tanks because you have to take a lot mroe time to aim then nato tanks. Theres no avoiding the fact the russian tanks in this game have a lot more protection then they should. Lets not even get into the fact you can shoot the carousel and the tank not go up in a ball of flames. But god forgive you throw a rock at a poorly modled turret basket on nato tanks
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The enemy can’t do this unless your team is a collection of the finest Glue sniffer across 5 continent. Assuming you know to hold your ground and know where to look at there would be no hard pushing from the Soviet team.
Couple with the superior gun handling and you show only your turret then you wouldn’t be pushed. After all the NATO team have the better shell and better gun reload. It all circle back to how you deal with the progress of the match at the start and learning the most basic stuff for ground RB.
Sure at the start brainlet gonna push your position with 3-4 T series but then your team who at the high ground will have to cover that , which from my own experience there always people up at those place picking off misplay tank. Warthunder is a team game after all.
And I don’t seem to be able to convince you so whatever , enjoy your day. Not like that matter anyway.
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