BMPT/72 BR Topic

Reddit and YouTube are not the devs.
Those posts were made by players, whom you’re accusing of being wrong.
There is not a single claim, not one, of TOW-2Bs being nerfed prior to September 2021 by players.

Also the BR was only raised with decompression.
M3A3 was 2BR below top BR at the time.


M3A3 is currently 2.7BR below top BR, and 2.3 below the 2A5.

Lets not act like the Rafale hasn’t had a nearly 70% winrate over the last year or so at top tier.

And that winrate is with mixed teams as well, so if there was no such thing the winrate would likely be even higher.

A lot of the time actually?

SEPv2 > T-90M
F-15E > Su-30SM (meant to say F-15E > Su-34 here, but eh I’ll leave it as is since the mistake is on me)
M10 > most Russian 10.7 tanks
F-15C MSIP > Su-27SM
F-16C > MiG-29SMT
F-16A > MiG-29
And there are plenty of other examples.

It was already hard to take you seriously, but damn you really trying to make it even harder.

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Not so much 0.3 difference to premium Hornets and 0.7 to Su-33.

12.3 is much more favorable than 12.7, it especially was back when I played it, because it was before the 13.3 premiums had been added, so uptiers were rare and down tiers were far more common

I played F-18A and saw Su-27/33 almost every game seeing uptiers common thing on that br.

the matchmaker was simply different back a year ago when I did the stock grind, it was just crapping on phantoms every day

It was always just decent. The 30mm never made up for it’s shortcomings.

How ? F-18C early with German one was added in same patch Su-33 and JA37 added patch before only difference is F-2A ADTW and CF-188A

the 13.3 Su-30 premiums weren’t there and the overall matchmaker was very prone to downtiers for 12.3 (the German hornets were also added later)

Which means that F-18A would be prone for getting uptier year ago before premium Su-30 was added.

Uptiers feel very common at 12-13 recently with the addition of other planes and gaijin shaking up the BR tree a little.

no, it had downtiers way more commonly, I would know as that’s when I played it

Most of these vehicles were either not op or straight up unfair to count as op.

In its entire history, the 2S38 was decompressed only once, and that was at 0.3 BR. The Bradley, which simply became unplayable and is the worst IFV, is decompressed by a full 1 BR.

Is this a joke? Is the SEP-V2 better than the T-90M?

The same thing happened when the Su-30SM came out, everyone even forgot about the F-15E. The Su-30SM was OP in terms of CAS and A2A armament. The F-15E didn’t get a new radar, it didn’t get an increased number of missiles, it just got a slightly better engine.

Ahahahahahahaha.

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Yes it is, most people with the ability to actually aim agree that the SEPv2 is miles better than the T-90M, especially after the multiple buffs.

The only reason you disagree because you, infact, can’t aim for shit.

Yeah this one is on me, I meant to type F-15E > Su-34 as these released in the same update. I don’t know why my brain changed it to Su-30SM. I probably typed that name too much in the recent past lol.

Ah yes such a weak tank (and most of these stats are from 10.7-11.7 games tanks to my cursed matchmaker):

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Just because you will likely do bad in it doesn’t mean it isn’t better than most of the russian 10.7 tanks lol. Only Russian tanks around that BR that I would pick over the M10 is the BMPT and maybe the 292.

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f15E got cas weapons close to the flankers.

maybe your point was the fire forget missile.

Buffs? Oh yeah, I remember the Abrams buff when they didn’t give it DU armor, or when all Abrams got a turret basket. Are these the improvements you’re introducing?
The SEP v2 is terrible. It has no armor, no spall liner. It’s slow.

The Su-34 received the non-existent Kh-38MT, which simply destroyed the entire ballistic missile system.

It’s a terrible tank, it’s huge, it’s slow, it has no armor at all. It’s the worst version of the Stryker. I don’t know why they added it.
This Battle Rating already has the first Abrams, yes, it has a weaker shell, but it has speed, a low silhouette and some armor.

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In terms of missiles, the F-15E did not receive anything new at all.

2S38 came into the game when autocannons were matured: Strf 9040C, Begleitpanzer, HSTVL, and VCC-80/60 all offered good reference material for 2S38’s BR.
It was too low on introduction, but was quickly moved.

M3A3 was among the first APFSDS IFVs added to the game, with little reference material to gauge the ideal BR for it.
It turns out APFSDS IFVs are best placed 10.0 onward today.

And now we’re at BMPT, the most armored autocannon-missile carrier sporting T-72B’s composite array with a turret that’s pointless to shoot at due to the ammo storage being allegedly incorrect. I’m alleging that it’s incorrect alongside others.

It’s the EBR/PT-76-57/Puma situation again, but I can’t tell if it’s as bad as those or if my emotions are clouding judgement.

M10 Booker is significantly better than M1128 as well.