Past few days only managed to kill one bmp-t72, was shoving m774 up the ass. I was sitting behind sniping so I hadn’t been killed by them yet, yesterday was playing a little bit of Leo 2A4 and I shot one of them over 10 times >1.2km and can’t kill it lol like two shots are hitting the side and one non-pen and another barely going through and generate water pistol spalls. Long story short, this thing at it’s current form has equal or better protection than t-90m, similar to 2A7 and 122b the hull shot is a hit and miss. So the culprits is spall liner rng
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T-80BVM players* were a menace.
The T-80BVM never changed, only the players did.
At least 13 T-80BVM counters were added prior to T-80BVM’s addition.
Mig-23ML’s flight model was corrected over a year ago.
T-72A armor is not a nightmare to deal with…
HA! Hold on, you’re serious?
EBRs, P51H5NA, Jagdpanzer IV, first Puma [which is currently sub-par at 10.3 IMO], Centurion Mk10 on release [this one’s old, I know], every NATO CAS, F-18A, all M24s… the list goes on. And some of those still haven’t been moved up.
F-18A is in Britain and USA. Jagdpanzer IV’s German. M24s are in France as AMX-13-24, as well as Sweden, Japan, Italy, China, and USA.
There are these long-standing OP vehicles in many tech trees.
In M24’s case its equals are already at 4.3 now while it remains 3.7.
Like yeah, Soviets have BMPT primarily. With minor issues of 2S38 and T-80UD akin to the P51H5NA in USA.
And historically they had their own EBR situation with PT-76-57.
Mig-23MLD was the last flat out unfair addition because it was the top BR, so there wasn’t quick room to move it up in BR. Should’ve waited for more jets.
So before you go make a claim like “No other tech tree has this pattern.” talk to others.
There are more vehicles that were notorious beyond the ones I listed.
All 10 tech trees have had these situations at some point. Israel’s was Ayit, which was OP for years before Gaijin finally moved it to 9.7.
And many still have OP vehicles going under the radar.
Let alone the BR compression in air 13.0.
None of these things in my post dismiss or reduce the situation happening now.
BMPT is an issue, BMPT needs to move up. BMPT’s situation has been in other tech trees previously, and needs to be addressed.
The reality is this is simply how Gaijin operates. They have done this countless times (T58 and Turin III are recent examples, among many), it’s simply a part of their business model.
It goes like this:
- Build EXTREMELY OP vehicle at one of the active mid/high BR ranges.
- Open it up to the wallet warriors as a premium
- Profit…immensely
- Do nothing in response to the BR(s) being blown out (at least for a while) to ensure the wallet warriors will get to farm and in turn keep the faith and be ready to purchase for the next vehicle
- Rinse, repeat
It’s as predictable as the sun rising and setting, and the big “Screw You!” to bulk of the customer base that aren’t wallet warriors is simply part of the entire business plan. They understand that most will simply take it, or play different BR’s until the dust settles, or just “J” out when it gets to annoying.
But the end result will be that the wallet warriors will still get to roll through the crowds, the next OP vehicle will still get made, and Gaijin will still suck in a ton of money on the sales and be ready to do it all over again.
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It was corrected and then partly uncorrected. It is still overperforming.
USSR had more amount of this op vehicles than the rest. Yeah they have some, but not in such numbers as ussr.
The BI, su11, yak9, pantsir, 2s38, pt76-57, strella, zsu 57-2, bmp2m, brdm4, t72 moderna, kv1, ka50/52, mi28nm (when it first recieved ldircm and lmurs), su25 kh38, su34/su30sm.
And now we add both BMPTs.
Now I do not say this vehicles are op rn bc from all this years they got changed br and implemented counters in other nations. But in their times they were op.
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That thing is completely broken in br 10.3, I’m using M1128 with M900 and the shell still bounce in that frontal armor, even in the sides, is insane, those BMPT should be in br 11.7 or 12.
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Holy smokes bro came out of retirement to post about the terminator. Good to see you back old timer.
T14 cough armata cough premium cough
It’s actually quite easy. Just stop playing this game. What kind of masochism is this?
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Or play air or 9.3 below ground. Its still enjoyable somewhat. Oh time for my anger management session.
When you invested thousand of game hours, its quite difficult to do that.
That’s just how it feels as if you put T-90M somewhere it barely face end-game ammunitions, the reason the BMPT feels more survivable because it barely faces the type of ammunition the T-90M face in its respective br, furthermore spall liner is pure rng. For time being just don’t play anything that has a weaker than M829, which I mean avoid Leo 2A4 and play minimum Challenger 3, Vickers or better yet Israel 11.3 Merkavas or Chinese 11.0 since they carry eng game ammunitions. Other notable heavy hitters are Sabra and 120S, they should make a short work of bmpts
Another problem is I can’t even get a match if I queue for ru 10.3 lol even 10.7 took a long ass time
Didn’t feel like grinding it so I instead decided to whip out 10.7 Italy and feel what it’s like to play against and I’ve got to say
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I tried a few battles in Italian 11.0, although I haven’t seen many BMPTs, mostly 2S38 as usual.
No, it’s much simpler than you think. There are tons of interesting games out there, yet you keep playing this dull session-based game with repetitive gameplay, pay-to-win mechanics, unbearable grinding, and not even a semblance of balance. Why?
10.3 Russia seems to have a lot of upwards pull at the moment, especially on the EU servers.
So 10.7 gets a lot of uptiers to 11.3-11.7 from my experience, which is both a blessing and a curse.
Yeah its made 9.0 a real nice gem to play. Like 9.0 was already good to play but atm I am having very few if any up tiers.
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On US server you get games, but the queue time can be over a minute sometimes. Though, worth the wait for guaranteed 80% winrates.
Come on guys, buy the BMPT-72, it’s OP and gaijin needs money to have a good time this Christmas. I was sure these garbage devs were going to make the BMPT as fantastic as possible, although I didn’t expect them to add a premium version to make huge amounts of money. They’re useless at making a decent game, but they’re experts at making easy money.
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This was the 2nd game with it (yes i caved but mostly i wanted it so me and friends could figure out how to kill it.)
My description of this game is this, it was mindlessly easy, it required zero thought as all i did was point and click and drive from one side of the map to the other. I did die a couple of times to a leopard 2k from side shots and switched in to the 2s38 and eventually the BMD4M
Towards the end i just gave up caring because this was just seal clubbing i drove in to the spawn in the hope they would actually kill me i walked away with 4 kills before being dispatched in there, I’ve never dropped a nuke and it’s not something i care about doing either or actively seek to achieve but at the end of this i was surprised to learn i was 100 points away from one in only the second game with it.
This entire line up needs adjustment it’s the most broken thing I’ve ever seen in this game since i started in 2013, even with the 2s38 and now with the BMPT it’s literally just a point and click adventure with the occasional flashing light.
I don’t play this line up often and after this i probably won’t be playing it much after until this is adjusted because it’s just broken.
Replay link is here
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/422440115513438305
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