“weakspot” you can go through the ufp of the challenger with every top tier round and 30mm apds can pen the lfp so
With the 12.7 Challies, sure.
For the 11.7 Challies, quite a few rounds struggle. Especially at 10.7.
The 12.7 Challies should be 12.3 or possibly 12.0 in their current state anyways.
Directly head-on at 0m, yes.
If it’s angled then no.
Especially not if they have Dorchester add-ons.
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the 11.7 challies could still be fine with spall liners
You wouldn’t kill it through there with top tier rounds though. You would get penned, but you would not die.
it would disable you and sometimes one shot you so
Recently got the Boxer MGS and SwaTrInf to play alongside my Vilkas.
Almost any game is an uptier to 11.3/11.7 and instantly makes this BR unplayable.
Youll face a bunch of BMPT that you cant kill reliably.
The map rotation even benefits them with almost exclusively tiny ass maps where your Spike LR are completely useless.
Putting the cherry on top youre getting killed by russian CAS if you avoided the BMPTs successfully.
My win rate the last 15 matches was a whopping 13%.
When does this hellspawn finally get APFSDS and a proper 12.7 BR?
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I remember when the 2S38 was such a nightmare when it was added that we all complained for it to get a detailed damage model (which got added to everyone now and actually served as a buff for the 2S38 by removing its ready rack). Now I wonder what they are going to do to this things annoying turret.
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UPTIER is a cancer of the game. War Thunder is the only game where you play against players with a machine 3 levels stronger (0.3,0.7,1.0) this needs to be finally changed to +0.3 and -0.3. and BMPT is not OP, I always kill it head-on with one hit. I don’t know what everyone keeps writing that it is OP and cannot be killed. Another cancer called HSTVL and RDF/LT is much stronger and a bigger problem, these machines are in simulators against 10.3 tanks. It is unplayable against them. You play with 10.3Br against 12.0Br., but the main thing is that the gaijin took BMPT to the top tiers but left this cancer here in low BR in simulators. Players keep crying that Russian machines are OP, but they never played with them and if they did, then only a few battles where they were really bad but they will still cry that it is OP. with BMPT premium version I have 86 battles in March and 75 battles were in UPTIER where I couldn’t play anything. one hit and I died. I gave the maximum destroyed belt or cannon and nothing more. planes and helicopters all attack you primarily. 11.3BR is too high, you constantly play against 12.3. 85-90% of games only UPTIER. but players still cry that it’s OP.
No it should get it, in fact any tank that is missing historical feature should have it.
Like you said on BMPT thread adopt the situation, unless you don’t wanna loose easy access to killing CR2’s in the first place.
Bold gaslight
Try using the MSC to kill a BMPT that’s actively firing at you, doesn’t go as well as it does in a T-72B (1989) that is far more frontally armoured. Also, try using the EBRC Jaguar (weaker armament to an HSTV-L but I’d say it’s fairly close in overall effectiveness? Feel free to bash me if y’all disagree lol) to kill a BMPT with a 45° angle on it’s side. A hint from my personal experience, it doesn’t go as well as you may expect. These two vehicles are also within your BR specifications, just .3 lower.
I am curious as to how you can consistently 1-hit KO the BMPT head on, in my experience its armour and ERA are far too thick to puncture unless I either aim for LFP or I’m lucky with the turret ring
These META dudes really know how to play with words
If it gets the charges fixed sure. You can shoot the LFP and have your dart phase through the charges and yet you take out his engine.
Like how you shoot T-Series lfp only kill either driver or driver+engine while your round misses caruosal?
Yeah I agree, T-Series should be fixed in that case.
I would not mind that.
Then why are you complaining like only CR2 has this feature in the first place.
I’m sure you would not want T-XX or 2A7 to get an lfp spall liner, considering that’s a major frontal weakspot and you’d like it to be consistent as possible.
Oh and for the record, I never agreed with spall liner addition in the first place. Not as cancer as it used to be for sure, but still not something I agree with.
Those tanks doesnt have LFP spall liners, especially shitty T-Series while CR2’s lfp spall liner is well documented.
Doesnt make your previous state any better.
But you were okay with adding detailed modules to tanks right?
Yeah I’m aware they don’t have lfp spall liners, but that was just an example. Realism is not always good, sacrifices have to be made for gameplay.
I also never liked the addition of detailed modules either.
Example which had nothing to do with discussion in the first place.
Like KH-38MT, LDIRCM, LMUR’s capabilities snd their quantities, BMPT’s BS damage model, fuel tanks eats shells like breakfast, volumetric bs or many artificial nerfs that puts many vehicles in disadvantages?
Spare me that BS please.
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