Are we talking about ground vehicles in here or air vehicles?
Because if you like to talk about broken things I can gladly remind you that:
MiG-21BIS
YAK-3’S
MIG-23MLD
MIG-29 initial release
Current implementation of SU-30SM2 and many more.
You’re walking on pretty thin ice buddy, careful.
Sure, create a dedicated thread and lest also discuss it, I’m more then willing to send that thing into its well deserved br with changes.
So not the vehicle itself but the br compression is problem.
M1A1 cannot be at the same br that Click-Bait/M1A2 sits.
You’re basically explaining that br compression is the issue, not the vehicle itself.
Not a great counter argument buddy.
Does it really matter? We were talking about broken vehicles.
How many of those:
-were undertiered for years
-had broken damage model which made them able to absorb cannon rounds and missiles
-have greatly reduced ir signature (compared to other jet with same engine)
-have broken flight model
-have flare dispencers that were never fitted on them
-have missile which was never fitted to them
Also if you really want broken ground vehicle, there is t58 which still erases anything just by touching single pixel of tank while having 2.8s reload
It matters because this thread is dedicated to BMPT’s.
And? No one denies how broken T-58 its and proper actions should also be taken against that vehicle but what you’re doing right now is basically derailing the thread with vehicles that has no relation with this thread.
Is there not? I’m actually surprised.
Which I did say.
You and me both know those are undertiered. CB and M1A2 should be 12.7.
In KPz and MTCA case yes.
I don’t know since TURMIII doesn’t sit at br where I constantly play so I never checked if there is thread for it.
Same br as other top tier vehicles with trash thermals/lacking CITV while doesnt have any uniqueness?
No, not really.
How is it derailing? Person claimed bmpt is most broken vehicle and people including me prove they are wrong by naming other broken vehicles like t58 which is also broken but got no nerfs besides single br step nerf. No dm change, no 1.0 br increase. And it took longer than in bmpt case.
Jan 26 stats. Somehow most broken vehicle isnt even close to t58. Also you can look at how bmpt stats dropped (compared to dec 25) after all changes while t58 stats almost didnt change after br increase. Most broken vehicle couldnt keep its stats at same level unlike t58.
122s had no problem being 12.7 despite lacking good thermals and having a blanket on their CITV for ages.
Thermals, as long as you have them, is what you need. Generation should not affect BR. CITV is rather niche and largely useless in determining BR.
Uniqueness is such a useless point.
2A5s at a higher BR than the M1A2 when they’re a 1:1 equivalents…
Nah M1A2 is quite a bit better than 2A5, and yet US players say their tanks are overtiered.
And 2a6 being at same br as 2a7 is also absurd
Not a single one of those annihilated two entire br brackets.
It’s not remotely comparable.
Lol. They did. Go watch the YT videos and view the old reddit posts about them when they released.
Turm 3, maybe
But are people struggling with the OF-40 and kpz? ain’t no way
Maybe because Strv-122 has much better armor, Spall Liner and als 2nd Gen CITV are the reasons why it sits at higher br than those tanks.
For a person who has a lot of experience at top tier you’re making very stupid counter arguments dude.
Also only 122B+ had that issue, stop spreading misinformation please.
Only 122B+ had it? My bad. Shows how little CITV comes into play, as like I said, as long as you have even Gen 1s, that’s all you really need.
No they don’t.
Just because you don’t actively use them doesn’t mean they have little impact.
Many people including me uses their CITV to detect targets from safe position, especially on long range maps.
You can use binos for this. Works the same for nigh all maps, except some pretty big ones, which like I said, niche scenario.
CITV is superior to bino’s when it comes to detection, otherwise militaries wouldn’t put money on them.
The difference is night and day, just because you refuse to use it doesnt mean you can underestimate them.
IRL =/= video game.
