we should just create a poll with multiple brs, players vote and gaijin should move the vehicle on the picked br
IF they would do this
this vehicle has been breaking every br so far, i dont think 11.3 will be difficult for them, they now have better CAS options
Gaijin decides br based on data. There is no democracy here. And the newbies buying the BMPT-72 isn’t helping as it balances the veteran players’ stats.
it should be top teir and also allow top teir MBTs to get better performing rounds for the ERA
if that will happen russian tanks will be pretty much useless, thats why gaijin wont add it for now
Ad populum is not how you balance games.
This is accounted for. Worse players playing BMPT will perform better in an OP BMPT than other vehicles they play, thus causing statistical anomaly proving its OP status.
they perform about the same as china is rn
russian tanks in the game are mainly feared due to the ERA they have, yes china also has ERA but have larger tanks, russian tanks are quite small and have ERA blocks everywhere
and the reload buff (T80BVM or any other T80 series) also gives them an edge since most players dont have an experted or aced crew
i know i play t80 what im saying is that with the better apfsds they would perform similar to how china currently performs china also used the MZ and AZ auto loaders and have similar hull and turret architecture
6sec reload with 457mm pen at top tier make you think the russian mbt are op.
what are you smocking bud
T-80BVM: 6.4.
Abrams, Ariete [except P?], Merkava Mk4: 5.3.
Leopard 2A5+: 6.4.
Leclerc: 5.
Type 10: 4.
Oplot: 6.
None of those are aced crews.
LOL it’s 0.5 seconds faster than a level ZERO Abrams crew… SO OP!
Edit: unless its the BVM using 3BM60, that’s a whole 0.1 second faster!
i dont think he ever said it was op just an edge over what it had
bvm is 6.0 now (not saying russian MBT is op)
not with 3BM60 its not
ah didnt realise 3bm60 and 3bm42 had different reloads
3BM60 cant be stored in adjacent trays in the autoloader so it needs to cycle 2 trays for each reload, so it takes a little longer
All good.
@Cloudzy26160
Sadly, with how simplistic War Thunder’s ammo storage is, you can bring 29 rounds of 3BM60 for 28 in the first stage.
And you might think “What makes OTOMATIC different to where it can’t do that?”
The stupid dual feed system that War Thunder can’t simulate without the ammo storage system being overhauled.
not gonna lie playing the t80 UD/BE has been rough because of the BMPT
LOL that had actually never crossed my mind, you can take a full carousel of ammo that can only be loaded every 2nd slot…
Anyway, as I said previously, no BR change will really solve the issue with these vehicles, as they’re still far too difficult/inconsistent to disable. (Doesnt help that the 6mm rha around BMPT’s fueltanks doesnt spall, dont ask me how that works but physics would like to have a word).
So I’d argue that something like this for the horizontal-drive module would be a good starting point:
Blue = Horizontal Drive Module, Yellow = 3mm structural steel (Edit: Is aluminium)
Note:
The 5mm aluminium plate thats already there will eat your spall regardless. The horizontal-drive module itself is only 2mm of structural steel - but as a module it creates a f-ton of spall, which the current plating (3mm & 5mm aluminium) do not do to a comparable amount.
