acting like this is surprising lol
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho hehe aha ha ho he ha aha
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ofc russians are massively liking it, it supports their popaganda lol
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Liking a video =/= supporting its BR.
Disliking a video =/= opposing its BR.
Edit: The idea that liking a piece of work equates to supporting everything else remotely related to that work is not helpful.
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And what propaganda would that be? There have been so many nations with broken tanks that were so bad they were removed from game (Germany and Sweden mainly) but it took them a while. I finished the Russian tech tree all the way to top tier and teammates are okay but very toxic, tanks are garbage for the most part, mobility is poor but it didn’t fit my play style. The BMPT is broken and either needs a massive overhaul or honestly removed from game. I don’t think propaganda is what their pushing here.
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all of these are good, the bmpt is overpowered filth and is not to be used as a point of comparison
They were removed… for not existing?
I don’t think propaganda is what their pushing here.
Totally.
bad enough when you play it in anything but a big map with large open areas.
Can’t do anything against most tanks, especially RU in close quarters unless you manage to get a jump on them (with some luck required even then)
Oof
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The discussion whether they existed or not is too broad since some can say “designs were made but never built” or “its only a prototype and never produced to scale”. There are some tanks in War Thunder that were never built but in game slap the MAUS turret on it and call it the E-100. The SAV 20.12.48 which was removed from the game for being too powerful had been built in the 1940’s but in game it was just too dame strong. The point I’m making isn’t existence or not but some tanks like the BMPT could just be unfixable and removed entirely.
Some say increase it and give it APFDS then in my opinion it’s too strong at top tier 12.7. Others want the ERA removed which isn’t the worst idea but it’s mainly strong when played Hull down since the turret will not wipe your crew easily even with HE rounds. If Gajin adjusts it too much people will then complain it’s not accurate which in my opinion is better than killing the tank all together. RIP Wallet Warriors but they matter since no company runs on free hopes and dreams.
EDIT: Just remove the BMPT all together and remove the ERA from the premium but let those who own the premium keep it.
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Increasing it is not really the solution, since even at the top tier the vehicle is already very strong. The real issue with the vehicle is its armor model, which—without ERA—makes the RNG overwhelmingly favorable to the BMPT. It requires a direct adjustment to both the armor model and its modules, because it makes no sense for slat armor to completely stop a projectile with more than 600 mm of penetration.
Ultimately, the entire BMPT model needs to be revised, including the number of modules, which currently only serve to increase RNG.
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Thats what i said like yesterday
It has to be redone from the ground up,too many mistakes when they did it
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Absolutely, and you’re completely right. I wouldn’t be surprised if they left it with errors. You just have to remember that when it first appeared on the DEV server, the BMPT had 500 mm of armor across the entire model, and it wouldn’t surprise me if this caused issues on Gaijin’s side. What we have now is a vehicle that is overly strong and extremely difficult to destroy due to the inconsistency of the damage it takes, which goes far beyond the game’s usual RNG. The BMPT outperforms everything else.
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I would say War Thunder and the BMPT are just not going to work out even if it’s redone at this point. Some tanks just can’t be saved and I feel this is one of them. As mistakes go @Elli4ss the chassis of the BMPT-72 , in game mechanics at least, will stop projectiles at point blank range with ERA regardless of your ammos penetration unless your in a really high angle view of the ERA. The BMPT map wise also has an advantage with it’s small turret making it difficult to kill if someone plays it right after patch causing further outrage.
800mm ATGMs aren’t as good at 12.7 as many posts have implied.
Yes, the armor is good, and so is the armor of things higher up.
The primary reason BMPT is OP is a combination of the armor being strong, AND the armor of its targets [which would include T-72A TURMS] being rather poor.
120S, Sabra, Merkava Mk2D, etc don’t have the protection of 12.0s and higher against HEAT projectiles.
Of course, I’m not dismissing the speculation that it could be useful at top BR.
Just pointing out there’s a difference between 800mm HEAT warheads attached to missiles and 600 - 750mm penning APFSDS rounds.
I am starting to think that Gaijin is unable to introduce more classes because they spaghetti coded the ever living hell out of WT. Same goes for the vertical tec tree lines. Can’t go past 5.
They did it with the intercepter bomber and they can do it with the bmpt class. Namer also benefit from this change
Again, if you scroll through the forum I’ve had discussions with others civil and come to consensus respectfully as noted with @AlvisWisla . You, on the other hand, are attempting to incite discourse from me from a different forum because that is how you approach discussions is arguments without facts in an uncivilized manner. If you don’t like that my opinions are different you can block me that is all I’m going to say.
EDIT: As you already deleted your post I’ve sent screenshots to moderators along with our discussions.
Mods deleted and i did nothing wrong. I had and still conversations with many people even tho we dont share same view on thing such as @gfdsa_killer @Morvran @AlvisWisla.
You on the other you got something against me for no reason at all, not my problem if you insulted me many time and got muted.
Bmpt isnt balanced at all and need deep review and lot a changes so it wont break the game.
I tried to show people how to kill it, even as a bmpt main and german main stuck at 11.0 with go against bmpt.
You can continue your game it wont matter to me at all. Devs also know how you reacted and possibly and probably will do it.