I was merely making a point that BR shift wont really change the issues of BMPT or how people need to fight it.
I thought it was obvious.
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Lul, just killed one by shooing it UNDERNEATH 🤣 It jumped over a hill.
That’s all we gotta do guys! lmao
no, what you are implying is that its busted and it doesnt matter if it fights shermans or leo A7… leo A7 just have MUCH higher chance killing it or disabling it, period.
Easily disabled and trigger fireworks yes, killable? hardly. A hull down PUMA could take infinite amount of darts to the turret starts a repair simulator, after 3-4 cook off it eventually ran out of ammo but the crews remains 100% healthy and that time you either just scout for targets or bait the enemy into shooting it, cause a distraction so your teammate can return fire. Only time I was killed via turret is ATGM or Spikes, and occasionally HE but its so rng that it could take plenty and not get overpressure especially when hit in the MUSS sensor. Still p4p best unmanned turret in the game before bmpt arrives to dethrone it, not sure after yesterday nerf via chance of ammo rack via hit to the belt.
It would a little.
L23/L23A1 for example just lacks the pen or post-pen damage to reliably one shot any T-series with a LFP shot, even some mixed experience with a side on shot.
L26 is worlds better and L27A1 usually works fairly consistantly. (was nailing them in the Challenger 2 in GSB earlier today, definetly the firepower needed to properly counter them)
By moving the BMPT higher, it would more consistantly face the appropriate shells needed whilst those without would avoid the worst of it. I doubt many 9.0-10.0 shells can actually reliably deal with any of the 10.0+ T-Series based tanks without extremely accurate fire and a generous table spoon of luck
I dont know what is your problem, but
Are you implying that it isnt?
Leo 2A7V has to go for the same weakspots 2A4 does since the DM53 doesnt pass the neccesary penetration treshold to lolpen BMPT UFP.
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Sure, but ultimately you have to go for the same weakspots youd go for with Challenger DS, no?
Sure, I agree.
But the BMPT issues wont be fixed nonetheless.
Yes, but the L26 gives much more consistent one shots when hitting the LFP/drivers port/side than L23. And L27 will give even more consistent one shots in those weakspots than L26.
Sure, I agree with all of that, my point was entirely about the need to go for weakspots no matter the BR.
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Just landed 4 QN-506 F&F missiles on a BMPT and didnt even penetrate it. The QN-506 is hopeless against the BMPT.
It’s an uparmored T-72s/T-80 armor profile but slightly better due to having spall liners, so don’t expect to pen it even with top tier rounds shooting outside of the usual weakspots, 9.7 to 10.3 do have some heavy hitters like ZLT11, Sabra and 120S that uses top tier viable ammunitions. I’ve recently spaded the Booker and M228 could kill one-tab it via usual weakspots about 7/10 times, and M900’s consistency of OHKO significantly improved, only issue is short to mid-range encounter where I have no access to the weakspots and can’t back off to avoid getting hit.
Also the M10 Booker has turret cheeks surprisingly resistant against 30mm APDS from BMPs, I have been spammed at with the turret slightly turned and none actually got through to deal critical damage, that’s when I know it is something capable of trading fire with them lol
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How is it now can it be disabled, about to jump back in at 11 for this challenge 7 for this Boxer
and it pens them without trouble or RNG around ERA… you are clearly broken bot or newbie that never played top tier
“No matter 2A4 or 2A7V both of them have to go for same weakspots on the Terminator”
“nuh uh youre wrong 2A7V has to go for the same weakspots on the Terminator it just pens them more reliably”
This is how you sound to me honestly.
Not only I have played top tier, I managed to do so without getting a chat ban.
Unlike you.
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what a surprise that weakspot is weakspot for most tanks it faces! shocking! Maybe key is in the word WEAKspot? You are saying that it doesnt matter if you face BMPT with DM23 or DM53 and i say its nonsese just like everybody here, your argument is that both cannot pen UFP…shock for your newbie, NO tank can… unless its normalized and in that case DM53 will pen, DM23 wont.
And how does a chat ban relate to in game skill…?
btw i never said this lol… nice try
it relates to your ability to approach interactions with other people. Which is, to say, not great.
I dont know if im speaking chinese or what sort of language barrier there is, but for the last time before i simply mute you, becase my interest in this exchange with you is shrinking rapidly - my point was that moving the BMPT up in BR does not inherently fix its issues, because people would need to approach taking it out all the same - that being to go for its weakspots since not even L/55 firing DM53 can lolpen its UFP.
no i said that it doesnt matter if youre firing at BMPT with DM23 or DM53, you have to go for its weakspots regardless.
youre this close to getting it. if no tank in game can lolpen its UFP, then all have to go for weakspots, regardless of BR or shell, no? Thus moving it up in BR does not fix its issues, no?
I know you did not, because that quote was to represent what I was saying.
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When your chatban gets called out in regards to how you approach the exchange you act all surprised about what it has to do with anything but then go and attack my nationality. Sure.
Notice I am not contesting this, not in exchange with you nor in exchange with other people, in fact I agree with that statement.
See the following exchange only few comments above:
What was your point again?
Which “weakspots” exist for DM53 but do not exist for DM23?
Glad you agree with me.
mmh. the 2502 combined spawns across all Leopard 2 models other than 2A4/Pzbtl 123/prototypes (ie. those Leopard 2s found above 11.0), not counting the supporting vehicles.
No sir, never been to top tier.
What is that deflection?
Topic is about BMPT, entire time were talking about BMPT and suddenly you go “oh you dont know what weakspots are on T-90/T-72” when I ask what weakspot on BMPT cant be penned with DM23 but can be penend with DM53?
I guess chat ban isnt enough lol, you dont like speaking on forums either.
aight I had enough, I explained my position enough, its for others to judge.
Enjoy screaming into the void, I guess.
I’ve see it happen.
It was probably around 20 years ago now.
Cornered rat software, the developers of “world war 2 online”, released an update where they added the tiger for the Germans. The British got a crusader III and a Churchill 3 (I think) with 6pdr guns and the French got a Stuart. The Stuart was an afterthought as they wanted the French counter to be the mle 1897 field gun. A world war 1 field gun with 3 degrees of traverse.
It was an absolute massacre. Campaigns over in a couple of days (they usually took weeks), they were just driving into allied bases without a care in the world. The developers did sod all as they’d painted themselves into a corner with it and they were a very much whearboos.
It effectively killed the game. It was struggling a bit before due to the plague of people using bf-110s for top down strafing attacks and slaughtering a-13s but that pushed it over the edge.
Sure it’s still hobbling along somehow but that was the moment the game effectively died. It was arrogance and unwillingness to change course.
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tell you know that BMPT have T72hull right?
cry me a river… not my problem you are tangled in your own “lies” or to be precise lame arguments which contradict each other
well the community already pointed out your are wrong about no difference between DM23 and DM53 :D :D:D:D