“No matter 2A4 or 2A7V both of them have to go for same weakspots on the Terminator”
“nuh uh youre wrong 2A7V has to go for the same weakspots on the Terminator it just pens them more reliably”
This is how you sound to me honestly.
Not only I have played top tier, I managed to do so without getting a chat ban.
Unlike you.
what a surprise that weakspot is weakspot for most tanks it faces! shocking! Maybe key is in the word WEAKspot? You are saying that it doesnt matter if you face BMPT with DM23 or DM53 and i say its nonsese just like everybody here, your argument is that both cannot pen UFP…shock for your newbie, NO tank can… unless its normalized and in that case DM53 will pen, DM23 wont.
And how does a chat ban relate to in game skill…?
btw i never said this lol… nice try
it relates to your ability to approach interactions with other people. Which is, to say, not great.
I dont know if im speaking chinese or what sort of language barrier there is, but for the last time before i simply mute you, becase my interest in this exchange with you is shrinking rapidly - my point was that moving the BMPT up in BR does not inherently fix its issues, because people would need to approach taking it out all the same - that being to go for its weakspots since not even L/55 firing DM53 can lolpen its UFP.
no i said that it doesnt matter if youre firing at BMPT with DM23 or DM53, you have to go for its weakspots regardless.
youre this close to getting it. if no tank in game can lolpen its UFP, then all have to go for weakspots, regardless of BR or shell, no? Thus moving it up in BR does not fix its issues, no?
I know you did not, because that quote was to represent what I was saying.
When your chatban gets called out in regards to how you approach the exchange you act all surprised about what it has to do with anything but then go and attack my nationality. Sure.
Notice I am not contesting this, not in exchange with you nor in exchange with other people, in fact I agree with that statement.
See the following exchange only few comments above:
What was your point again?
Which “weakspots” exist for DM53 but do not exist for DM23?
Glad you agree with me.
mmh. the 2502 combined spawns across all Leopard 2 models other than 2A4/Pzbtl 123/prototypes (ie. those Leopard 2s found above 11.0), not counting the supporting vehicles.
No sir, never been to top tier.
What is that deflection?
Topic is about BMPT, entire time were talking about BMPT and suddenly you go “oh you dont know what weakspots are on T-90/T-72” when I ask what weakspot on BMPT cant be penned with DM23 but can be penend with DM53?
I guess chat ban isnt enough lol, you dont like speaking on forums either.
aight I had enough, I explained my position enough, its for others to judge.
Enjoy screaming into the void, I guess.
I’ve see it happen.
It was probably around 20 years ago now.
Cornered rat software, the developers of “world war 2 online”, released an update where they added the tiger for the Germans. The British got a crusader III and a Churchill 3 (I think) with 6pdr guns and the French got a Stuart. The Stuart was an afterthought as they wanted the French counter to be the mle 1897 field gun. A world war 1 field gun with 3 degrees of traverse.
It was an absolute massacre. Campaigns over in a couple of days (they usually took weeks), they were just driving into allied bases without a care in the world. The developers did sod all as they’d painted themselves into a corner with it and they were a very much whearboos.
It effectively killed the game. It was struggling a bit before due to the plague of people using bf-110s for top down strafing attacks and slaughtering a-13s but that pushed it over the edge.
Sure it’s still hobbling along somehow but that was the moment the game effectively died. It was arrogance and unwillingness to change course.
tell you know that BMPT have T72hull right?
cry me a river… not my problem you are tangled in your own “lies” or to be precise lame arguments which contradict each other
well the community already pointed out your are wrong about no difference between DM23 and DM53 :D :D:D:D
If you never got a chat ban did you ever even stock grind bro?
“T-72 hull” means nothing when it varies from T-72 Ural with the same hull armor as T-64A to T-72B '89 with the same hull armor as T-90M.
Functionally the BMPT has the same hull armor as the T-90M as it has Relikt slapped on top
It’s clear from this (and plenty others…) that Gaijin do not have a clue and just throw stuff together a couple of times a year, as long as the cash cows keep chinking in. Remember the roadmap? Looks like they can’t even follow a Russian A to Z…
Let’s face it, we the players are just as much to blame, always whining for a the newest tank, plane and fancy missile which encourages creep and compression.
I would rather Gaijin concentrated on QOL, bugs and the bloody CDK for at least one ‘update’…
exactly yet that guy just says he is experienced player who cannot say weak spots of different T72 models and which are applicable to which round…btw T64 and T80 use different hull.
The latest patch didn’t change things. Still tanking, still OP.
You forget, we already saw this partially happen when the KA50 + Vikhrs got added, it broke top tier MM at the time, it totally broke Heli EC mode and was broken for 4 years, not while also making every other premium at the time worthless and unplayable in Heli EC.
BMPT is a far worse situation tbh because its in a mode where the majority of the playerbase reside so its bound to have more of an impact. Issue is it cannot be removed now because its a sold product so its either they balance it or they flat out make the game a miserable experience for anyone 9.7/10.7 trying to play other premiums
ngl this made me giggle
The weakapots get greatly smaller with thr L23A1. And I’d go as far as to say a few don’t exist with them. So it would greatly depend on what shot you were talking about.
For example, with L26 and L27A1 i’ll aim for corner, near the tracks and it will usually kill. L23/L23A1 cant really pen that spot, so I dont
I will avoid 10.7 bracket until something reasonable is done with this nonsense. And this is unfortunate, because, in my opinion, 10.3-10.7 is the most enjoyable BR now, with modern tanks and not too much CAS cancer.
When there are no more defenses, the focus shifts to other vehicles to make the indefensible something acceptable.
And those of you who want an increase in BR or some acceptable nerf to the BMPT are being led to compare the BMPT to vehicles that are totally balanced in virtually every aspect of the game.
DISCLAIMER: PROTECTION MAP FOR DEMONSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY
I took two screenshots of protection maps, one with L23A1 and one with L27 on Challenger 2 TES, overlayed them, made one semitransparent and the other one different saturation, to highlight areas which L27 can pen but L26A1 cant.
As much as I agree with the fact that higher penning shell has more spall and more reliably goes through the weakspots, you can not look me in the eye and tell me theres practical difference between L27 and L23A1 in pennable area :D
L26A1?
Do you mean L26 or L23A1?
The L23A1, im dumb and i cannot read.
