I mean, it does mean that now 9.7 vehicles (of which there are a “above zero” number of) would not have to face the BMP-T. Having played a handful of games at that BR (mostly as a UK AA lineup with the OSA and Stormer AD to have “fun”) it is an actual horror show trying to not accidentally get double tapped by 30mm fire, and it was bad enough before trying to run away from the hordes of T-series tanks.
While I agree that fundamentally another BR bump is a bandaid to a solution that requires an ICU and lifesaving surgery, it is better than the current state of affairs which is that “it’s miserable to be playing anything that isn’t Russia”
we said this about the Pantsir… it got maybe one or two BR bumps but as per, it was a bit (very) unfair on practically every other lineup, which didn’t have comparable AA. Russian teams essentially got a free pass from enemy CAS provided their Pantsir player had two functioning synapses, whereas basically everyone else was busy still trying to flank-speed manouevre out of the way of the Kh-38MT…
Made another report on the belts, this time with the video as additional reference.
Probably gonna get shut down with no reason given again because they really dont like when people disprove their blatant lies it seems. https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1vaXx9PreDA9
you are wrong because russia had KA 52 and ka 50 which was absolutely dominating top tier for years… covered by Tunguska… like they could not add OSA or TOR instead of it so it would be balanced to NATO SPAA which had ABSOLUTELY no chance fighting Kamovs
After unlocking the BMPT, I can say, its Very good Balanced, its realy fun to play since you tank literally everything (even stock)
In 2 rounds so far the 1st was an Nuke, so yea…
It wasn’t as “hard” before to get some kills without FnF missiles, the 52 one also had quite a powerful IRCM or whatever it had and the missiles are busted still.
Before the introduction of the Pantsir, the MiG-27K was arguably the strongest CAS jet in the game. At the time, it was one of the very few aircraft with laser-guided bomb capability, which defined the meta back then. MiG-27Ks could comfortably loiter at around 10 km altitude, drop LGBs with impunity, and remain effectively invisible to radar, raining ordnance from above with little to no risk.
In contrast, TV-guided weapons were genuinely awful during that period. Monochrome seeker screens had poor contrast, visibility was terrible, and acquiring targets often felt like an eyesight exam. This was also back when night battles couldn’t be disabled, meaning roughly half of all matches rendered TV weapons literally unusable. On top of that, AGM-65s dealt less damage overall, even today, the 40 kg warhead can still result in nothing more than a “hit”.
Ironically, the addition of the Pantsir amplified Russian CAS dominance. Russia gained access to the only SAM system capable of denying airspace out to ~18 km, with 60–80 degrees of radar coverage, and operating on radar frequencies that no RWRs could even detect (a problem that still persists to some extent today).
At the time, the Pantsir became the only real counter to the LGB meta, especially considering that the US didn’t yet have a single LGB-capable platform and was still fully reliant on TV guidance, with all the shortcomings mentioned earlier.
And that’s without even touching on Ka-50/52 dominance, which is an entirely separate discussion and clearly an even more extreme case.
because DM53 is pretty much guaranteed to pen angled side or go through relikt while DM23 cannot pen side through ERA even from flat side also DM53 have much much much higher chance getting through weak spots and doing actually some damage or at least don’t get stopped by ENGINE when fired from behind…stop pretending you rather fire DM 23 over 53 and sit in tank with better armor to shrug off 30mm and ATGM…
