Its not one reason, it is the main reason. Probably 2/3rds of the games I’ve had at what’s supposed to be 11.0-11.7 as Russia has had 0 BMPTs and 4 or 5 T-72B3 Arenas.
The 2S38 is the only player in that screenshot that has a BMPT and afaik he never used it. Everyone else aside from me and the T-90 had the B3 Arena and either only premium or just flat out no lineup to speak of*. This thing happens every event. There’s only a focus on it right now because of the BMPT.
Not saying the BMPT isn’t contributing, it certainly is, but the huge spike is from the Arena and not the BMPT. Thing is a monster though it needs to be nerfed. Absolute beast.
*I do not count having a KV-2 or T-44-100 as a lineup for the T-72B3 Arena
During BMPT’s flavour of the month era, queues often had Russia have ~100 players while other nations had ~35. Which, yes, is a difference, but expected.
Once Arena became available, the numbers became ~250 for Russia and ~15 for other nations; which is when matchmaking really became problematic.
You are wrong. I checked. The T-90A has a very incomplete Hatch damage model (making it half the size of the physical hatch), the T-90M also has flat hatch syndrome while the 40mm part is protected by a 110mm outer ring. All the top tier Russian MBTs lack a proper optics modeling. Meaning they are more immune to HE than they should be.
What’s curious is somehow almost all of them are more HE resident than the Oplots quite noticeably. Curious. What’s most curious is how you reckoned I was wrong without checking first. You just straight up lied. Why is everyone comfortable lying nowadays? Why do YOU feel comfortable straight up lying to try and seem more correct online? It cost you nothing to legit just not reply.
I love how you directly link bug reports that support what I literally just said. The 90M is in there. I just don’t understand the need and thirst to just be contrarian.
Curious how that has been that way for so long. I wondered for the longest time if anyone noticed or reported. Apparently people have already. It’s still been this way. Like many other inconvenient bugs.
did i stub your toe or something? while i do understand your point (what you’ve described does happen on this forum quite often), you are jumping to conclusions here
My point is you were QUICK to slap my comment down without evidence of me being incorrect. But just feeling like I was… Nowadays people do this alot. Tear someone down and think later.
You reposted something that validated what I said after saying “ItS oNlY T-72 ShUt Up” essentially lmao. I’m not the one being rude and a A hole. But whatever. My thing is just take your time, also it cost NOTHING to be kind. No need to rush a response out just to be incorrect and rude.
Anyways the BMPT needs to go up in BR. 12.0 at least imo. If it’s going to keep the survivability, and things like the Abrams turret ring aren’t getting fixed. If that’s the case I might just say 12.3.
Hmm…
I didn’t paint you as anything you said. Just that you chose a bad thing to do in that one moment. Not an entire character, idk you. My thing is don’t start off mean to others, then try to frame someone else to be a bully.
tbh BR is not the issue, the busted damage model is
going higher than 11.3 is kinda pointless, it wont magically stop absorbing darts and atgms by going higher
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you know you are the one who started this? you could have just proven me wrong with a single screenshot and i would have been corrected right there and then
but instead you chose to do all of this:
-called me a liar
-assumed i called you wrong to seem right online (which is kinda retarded itself), while i didnt even interact with you before (therefore i have nothing to be seen “right” about)
-assumed i called you wrong to be a contrarian (a contrarian in this case? do you even know what that word means?)
-then you went on to misquote me on purpose
do you really think you didn’t overreact? do you really think you dont come off as
?
don’t bother responding to me anymore, i wont bite anymore
Fix DM, BMPTs then swap BRs with the Oplots and boom. Good BR change imo. Idk where they were going putting the chieftains up but hey. I don’t make decisions here.
BMPTs DM seem imo to have gotten worse not better. Day one was alright. Then they decided to make the missiles not do damage.
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Saying something contradictory just to be contrary regardless of truth = contrarianism. You replied to me, I didn’t speak to you. You started it by falsely claiming someone was wrong. Don’t jump to conclusions if you’re not looking the consequences. It’s called a lesson.
Wasn’t a misquote, but a funny hyperbole. Telling someone “you’re wrong, it’s only the T-72” when you’re the one who was in fact wrong (when you didn’t even have to be, you not replying to my random message would’ve saved you from being wrong) is peak irony, and exactly the issue with society. Feeling of being superior > Facts & common courtesy.
I have 0 way of telling intent. But yes it did come off as malicious. Because mostly only malicious people do that kind of thing on forums where it’s supposed to be open dialogue. So many people just want to seem better than the next person. Instead of just having a conversation. Instead of attempting to shut someone down, slow down, think, check, & reply. You won’t need to be upset at the consequences next time.
HSTVL: can pen every MBT frontally. Has 12.0
BMPT: omyhoshitsnotgettingoneshottedtithesiloettheplease12.7withoutanyarmanment
Ofc you guys will never play it so will never understand what does it mean that you only have ATGM armanment. frfr.
ah yes, those “terrible” 25-40 mils of NATO techs in war thunder. Bradleys, CV90s… Ofc ofc ofc.
The wort must be a Fox with its Rarden that… also shoots in a pixel…
Buddy, it doesn’t matter if you use APDS or APFSDS for that, it just doesn’t need better 30mm ammo. I have it, and I play it against top tier MBTs, I’ve zero issues.
If you have it, and find yourself having issues against MBTs with APDS, skill issue on your part.
Same as me destroying them with practically any armanmant of 10.3-12.0 pool. It does not need a raise, it does need a proper enemies so germans wont cry about it.
I dont own it as i dont like it much because its based on T-72. Ill eventually get the tech tree variant, but im not paying a dime for another 72 in my life.
Yep. The HSTV can penetrate most tanks’ weak spots from the front, but it only has 26 rounds of ammunition and is easily destroyed. The BMPT can also penetrate most tanks’ weak spots from the front, such as using its 30mm autocannon to penetrate the M1’s “super neck.” Not to mention its 1200mm-penetrating anti-tank missiles (and it’s equipped with ammunition racks 😭). And then… the HSTV cannot penetrate the BMPT’s lower frontal plate because that area has additional reinforced armor! I think the HSTV and the BMPT should not appear in the same match; their battle ratings conflict.
