Bismarck: The Iron Chancellor

Ironically, this means that Gneisenau might be the most problematic because of her retaining Scharnhorsts armor scheme.

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Not really, in dev server Gneisenau explodes within 2 sec after ammo lift is on fire for >90% of the time, even much easier to kill than Scharnhorst in live server

Thx for telling me. Ammo elevator detonations are already making Scharn hardly playable. I was considering to even buy the Gneis. But why, if its the same elevator mechanic (where are the blast doors^^ Its not an open shaft)… Also for what? Bismarck hardly appears to be a worthy addition. There’s no reason to quickly unlock her, just to be DOA.

Whelp, that’s what I get for buying a new premium the moment it’s announced. I typically never do that for this very reason… I was just too excited. Not the most expensive lesson I’ve ever learned, but still unpleasant.

You will get nothing but downtiers at launch, enjoy it then before everyone gets end of the line 8.x ships that eternally drag it up there.

How do you figure? Gneisenau is to be a 7.7, per dev server. The only 8.3s and 8.7s are the new TT bigguns, right? And there will certainly be many Day One Iowas, Yamatos, Bismarcks, and fake Rooskie BBs when the new update hits. Or are you suggesting that Gaijin will limit 8.0 and above to their own BRs and fill in the other slots with bots?

Maybe its different in Naval, but in Air and Ground modes the new top units are just there from the very start.

Bismark DOA, Historically accurate.

Thought it was 7.3 my bad, 7.7 might still get some downtiers for a while but not as much ya.

Its gonna take about 10-15 hours of grinding for everyone that has the tree completely finished before the update hits to get the new ships unlocked unless they spend 10k or so GE to instantly unlock it, naval grind is pretty brutal. And thats with a premium/talisman ship and time.

Also they are easy to one shot these days with 7.7s like Rodney :P

Ive been feeling pretty indestructible in the sharn playing it at range and sniping, think most people now are just shooting bots though, I hear its easy to kill via fires or something?

Yeah, you aim just below the forward turrets on the Scharn or Gne and about 75% ish of the time. It will explode a few seconds later and unlike the Ammo racks you dont need 20’000mm of pen to do so.

All you have to do is set fire to the ammo racks and because of their short nature, will travel down the ammo lifts very fast

British 15" and 16" guns at the very least can pretty much one shot a Scharn or Gne if you aim at the right spot and its not a hard spot to hit

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Ya I noticed recently id hit someone, and usually i just shoot below forward turrets if I dont know where to shoot, that i would get a “target destroyed” message seemingly randomly like 5 seconds after a hit that seems to only take like 10% off the bar of an otherwise healthy ship I guess this is what is happening and doesnt only affect sharn?

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It can be done against any ship, but Scharn and Gne have very short lifts compared to most. So the amount of time it takes for a fire near the top to travel down to the ammo rack is a lot shorter than most.

If its long enough, then its possible to put out the fire, but it seems nearly impossible on the Scharn and Gne if the fire is anywhere but the very very top

I also imagine with Gne, you’ll have a fair few that wont cancel other repairs to prioritse fire fighting as well. Which will only make matters worse

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even 12 inch guns of wyoming can do it

is bismarck gonna get a baltic stripe skin as a kill skin or is it gonna be crates
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her turrets tops are painted orange btw (photo from prinz eugen)

That may change in the coming update. A fire started anywhere in the lift appears in the middle and spreads up and down evenly. Scharns short lift means this is a death sentence most of the time. Now a fire starts where the fire started not in the middle. This means Wyomming might be starting a fire at the top and Scharn will be able to put it out easily

peak ive died so many times to this mechanic its like 50/50 death roll

The exact change if you are interested:

Though probably still vulnerable to things like Rodney and Hood :P

and may make some ships even worse because the fire can now also start at the bottom

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well thats good because shouldnt be immortal but strong