BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

Not with VIFF no

No gaijin used a made up thrust and the engine in game makes like 10,000 lbs thrust
At .6 Mach

Still why are you even arguing over gross thrust that’s very dumb

Look at how the game is coded. Do you think planes IRL only have 5% installation losses over bench tests? Or installation gains?

So Gaijin has actually made that value sort-of-match the value you gave. LMAO.

The harriers thrust loss is like 2% static installed in the aircraft

The thrust curve of the harrier in game is fundamentally completely different to irl

It’s missing 2.5 tons?

And the wing provides like half as much lift

Tell me how it’s close at all

I am pretty sure 2% loss is basically unheard of. Amazing that Harrier engine intake is more efficient than every other intake design since.

And the developers have mentioned why this is. It is to get the plane to actually be able to hover in the game.

Are you taking in-game CL as 1:1 copy of IRL CL? Do you not understand how this works?

Wrong

The shape of the curve

The harrier isn’t hovering at .8 Mach

It’s very obvious that it should pull more G at any given AOA

You do realize that if you try to match in-game lift curves to IRL or simulations that you will get very inaccurate performance?

I don’t care

They should make it pull the same G at the correct AOA and sustain the correct G

However they do that is on them they are the devs

The game is not engineered that way.

If I drag and drop simulated CL/CD ratio for Gripen into the game…guess what happens?

Boo who

You’ve done nothing here but provide bad false information and un-researched comparisons

You even tried to imply a F-104 will out turn a harrier

When in reality the harrier out pulls it at all speeds using hardly 11-12 degrees AOA

You do not know do you?

Am I a war thunder dev my guy?

Am I expected to know?

Source?

You’ve clearly run out of ideas lol

No I am legitimately asking. This is probably obvious to anyone that is an onlooker.

I am a horrible source if I disagree with you.

However I am a good source if I agree with you.

Like you have been arguing with me for a billion messages at this point.

The whole through-line of the topic is basically you being selective of what sources you believe and not expressing a single ounce of skepticism if some piece of evidence seems to confirm your prior beliefs.