ASEAN Founders Aviation Sub-Tree

As for the Hawk, I also think it might be important to bring up that Indonesia and Malaysia are the main operators of the Hawk 200, with the only other operator (Oman) having less than half the number of aircraft Malaysia alone does.

That’s actually pretty insane, with the first airframe appearing for Britain I think it’s only a matter of time before they start rolling out to other trees, like most things in this game, even the Strela 10 did after being exclusive to USSR for over a year or so, the L-39 was also added a while ago and that should make its way to other trees. I’d love to see the Thai version in early and late format, sure it may be slow but it’s still faster than the A-10 so it should be fine if it gets something like AIM-9P/P4s.

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it also not in the markings of a country in a different tree tho.
Excluding that and those HAWK planes this tree offers nothing new.

so, i judge based on this image:

And for the most part it looks like clones all around. Then i see those guys you talked about.
THe AT-6 which to me looks like a training version of SB2s, the A-37 which looks exactly like Strikemaster, and i mistook the A-29 with a Hudson for some reason.

Thy all the uniques dont really form a tree or a subtree. They look better added by themselves to the trees of the designers.

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Technically even the F-8H Crusader is yet to be added in the game as well. Theres also the T-50 and FA-50 which is Korean, including the KT-1 Woongbi and KF-21 Boromae. Heck even the CL-41G Tebuan.

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You couldve at least pretended to actually look at the differences of the aircraft instead of just “looking”. You ignore all of the carefully curated choice of airframes just because they “look like” other aircraft lmao. Even the Singaporean Hawker Hunter is a uniquely upgraded variant but you wouldnt know because “it looks like any other Hunter”

You must be the kinda guy to insist that the F-2 is just a Japanese F-16 huh

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Yeah, I was trying to look at it from a very simplified perspective and only include entirely unique families of aircraft from the main suggestion. If I included unique variants I’d just repeat the whole thing.

I did miss the FA-50 though somehow, but considering the “A-37 looks exactly like Strikemaster” it’d just be the “trainer F-16” anyways…

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Honestly that sent me ngl,
I half considered correcting them, but that a comment so dumb I feel like it doesn’t deserve the time taken to correct them.

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speaking of early+late format, myself see the Hawk could be in 2 option:

  • 1 Hawk 200 with all aspect IR + 1 T-50i with 2 IRCCM
  • 1 Hawk 100 (lower BR, all aspect IR) + 1 Hawk 200 with IRCCM

also about Hawk 100, it has option to equip with laser designator and FLIR on the nose tip, though idk if they’re ever been equipped for both MY and ID models given the FLIR sensor might be there(?) while 2nd window (maybe similar to GR.5 and AV-8B Early one?) is sealed off, perhaps cancelled off the bigger FLIR option (that the smaller FLIR makes it able to do night ops like the NA and GR.5A?)


GR.7 nose FLIRs

on a second thought, CL-41G maybe one of it’s own since, aside Canada, no one else operates the Tutor, or specifically even, a Strike Tutor (as RCAF only operates the trainer model CT-114) unlike Strikemaster and Dragonfly which has plenty of operators

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What unique does it offer? It does have better engines and armanment so it would be a higher battle rating? It has new planer with different form of wings therefore different flight model?
I may have not found such, so please educate me on that

4 AAM’s including AIM-9G’s which isn’t implemented on other Hunter variants in game, 2 extra AGM-65’s, 2 extra rocket pods, centerline payload option for 2 bombs. This comes at the cost of being heavier due to the wing strengthening from it. Different CM placement in comparison to the Swiss or Omani Hunters. Singaporean Hunters also got an performance upgrade in the 1990’s

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Hmmmm… Okay then. So it would be a different battle rating than existing ones, meaning different type of enemies. I do count that as a point to uniquiness

It’s a laser range finder for the CCIP/CCRP unfortunately

I don’t think anyone actually went for that TBH, maybe @Gunjob knows?

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Laser Range Finder for CCIP/CCRP not a laser designator used for guidance.

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Just the thing I couldn’t find! Thank you.

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yeah I got them wrong, my bad, seems it was going to have something like the ARBS found on A-4M and Harrier IIs on lower compartment. is it just simply not fitted with? or too obsolete to be include with?

Probably just didn’t want to pay for it, iirc the British Hawk 128’s have illumination lamp there instead, so it’s not just Indonesia

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That one was Hawk 200 sorry, this is Hawk 100;

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man,
they really add the prototype model instead of production one

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the rest will be coming for sure, we just gotta wait

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If they were going to add the prototype hawk 200 they could have taken a few more creative liberties (I think it had the AN/APG-66H?)

Like skyflashes or mavericks [nvm just saw it has mavericks] or amraams (if compatible or perhaps for a later variant)

I hope they add somethin unique or cool y’know?

they did add the Maverick based from the trailer (either A or D model)
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