Really cool
I mean the Indonesian would probably be more unique in the game actually, in practice the Malaysian wouldn’t differ much from the Russian one at all despite having significant differences that matter irl, but not quite ingame, the Indonesian Su-30 being worse than the SM can fit as a 14.0 jet instead of 14.3 for example, but I’d like either of
Indonesia’s Su-30 are bascially the Su-27SM with worse engines and less A2G options; correctly implemented it would be 13.7 at best.
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Yeah sounds about right
MICA - Meteor and Hammer. The rest of its AGM will probably be comprised of our JDAMs and Paveways since we already have those in piles. Plus we’ll probably try to work our already in stock 9X as part of it’s armament.
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Would be nice to see Indonesia request wiring or something for AIM-120s as well and probably be 1 of the only if not the only Rafale user to use amraams on it, should make it unique if that’s the case, combining amraams longer range capability + MICA deadliness at closer ranges, probably a 4x of each missile for full fox 3 loadout or 2x amraams, 4x MICAs and 2x magic 2s/MICA IR
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oh hell nah that’s some OP shit. If that’s really the case (which Indonesia is known to do) then the future Indonesian rafale really got to be Rafale B to compensate for the armament variation.
But, the reason I mentioned 9X is because as far as i’m concerned we don’t use Magic. our IR AAM are 9B, 9P, 9L and 9X. And if we want to be more ace combat we have the chance to request for R-73 Wiring.
Not to say it can’t happen, but generally Rafale contracts bundle in weapons (and resupply of the said weapons), so in service it’ll probably be Mica IR/EM + Meteors.
In game it’ll probably just be Magics though, “same aircraft, same weapons” policy etc etc
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just need to pray TNI-AU goes IAF and starts strapping AMRAAM - RVV-AE - R-73 - 9X on that rafale.
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think only missile iaf would even consider integrating are the ASTRA series of missiles. which are much better than meteor
Doubt they have the will or funds. There were talks of integrating western armaments (missiles) to the Su-27/30. Never came.
Besides, I thought the Americans were still trying to field a Meteor counterpart and now they have the air launched SM6. Meteor is the premier long range weapon and I’m not sure making it Amraam capable is worth the cost when you already have the ‘better’ missile.
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tbf it’s flanker they’re talking about. with how the war goes there’s big chance that we’re just going to chuck it to the bin with how much of a hassle maintenance have become.
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And who determined the Astras to be better? Do you even know what Meteors are capable of?
Does meteor meet this?
Spoiler
It’s clear which one’s better
Perhaps, the Meteor is touted to have ranges of over 200 km with the maximum range figure still classified, some figures claim excess of 300 km for its absolute maximum range as well, its no escape zone is around 60 - 80 km, given that the Astra like any other missile will not reach its absolute maximum range in practice and with everything so classified I’d say the missiles are comparable rather than one clearly better than the other
I’ve never seen primary sources list it 300 km, most of the time its >200km
Excess of 200 km could be anything and if we consider missiles don’t reach their maximum ranges, I’d say the Astra Mk 3 perhaps has a bit more range, in the middle to high 200s could be a good estimate as well, hence why claiming the Astra Mk 3 as “clearly” better without concrete proof is unwise
did you not read the poster i just send
it’s 340 km range
I did see, but do you think the missile will hit 340 km in practical use? No, neither in real life nor in WT, you claiming the 340 km as an assured figure is naive. Excess of 200 km for the Meteor could even be over 300 km. Truth is WE DON’T KNOW which missile is better because IT’S CLASSIFIED
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No ofc not. But that is still more than meteors and claimed range. We don’t know meteors absolute max range. But, from public data it’s less than astras