ASEAN Founders Aviation Sub-Tree

Be cool if it got 9Ms to make it more unique.

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Yeah, I’m honestly unsure why we don’t have them. My best guess is because the missile actually mounted was AIM-9L, not AIM-9M, which they might not see as useful enough. But even then the same 9L → 9M change was also done on the F/A-18D for Malaysia, while the MiG didn’t get any Sidewinder.

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AIM-9L on a MiG-29N, mounted on the central wing missile station

It was also only a one-off prototype situation done in the early 2000s, not something that was ever serviced. Still, the capability likely stayed since the necessary launch rail for it, the LAU-7, is fully integrated and used with P5 CTS on service aircraft. The mounted Sidewinder is most likely part of this integration.
It also lines up with the in-game MiG-29N, which is an early 2000s (2002/2003) upgrade when N019ME radar was retrofitted.

Images of service MiG-29N/NUB with P5 CTS on LAU-7




The LAU-7 launch rail is only ever seen on the central wing stations, but on both sides.

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Leonardo DRS brochure listing MiG-29 as only non-NATO platform certified for P5 CTS, likely in reference to the Malaysian aircraft.

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I’d love to see 9Ms on it, I much prefer them to R-73s ^^

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I think taking both would be funny since the IRCCM behaves completely differently between the 73 and 9M, you’d get a missile for each situation, 9Ms are deadly in side aspect and for combat air patrol runs in GRB

I personally only run 5x R-77 + 1x R-73, I don’t really use R-73s unless I’m in a dogfight ^^

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not 100% confirmed just yet, but from what it looks like the 2026 batch of airframes had arrived (batch 1+2), which include = 4x rafale B & 2x Rafale C

gotta wait until the ceremony in a couple of days to know for sure



Update: found an alternative footage from yesterday landing in Sri Lanka, Its the first batch confirmed! Rafale Cs (and B)!



Video version

Aero Clicks on Instagram: "Dassault Rafale F4 fighters landing in Katunayake in heavy rain with their Fuel Tanker #aviation #aeroclicks #fighterjet #rafalef4 #dassaultaviation"

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Yeah that’s fair, I know people who run full R-77s or even 4x R-77s and 2x ERs or ER/ET split, in my case I’m the type of player who makes an (air to air) loadout for every single situation imaginable in case I RTB and find myself with any given number of enemies, the R-73 + 9M mix would be for a map like Kamchatka against a potential higher BR enemy aircraft (depends which one as well) where I’d force a dogfight and use those missiles.

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found the Hawk 53 specs from Indonesian Air Show '96, unfortunately the armament section is cut off but there are some unique stuff mentioned



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SEvbpoVyTw (~5:00 mark)
Much clearer on the youtube video than on the screenshots

from what I can read, (ea here is each = pylons capable of carrying / amount possible to carry):

  • GP Mk82 bomb | 250kg, 4 ea
  • GP MK I bomb | 130kg, 4 ea
  • CBU TAL 1 cluster bomb | 250kg, 4 ea (israeli)
  • GP MK 12 bomb | 360kg, 4 ea (still used in modern times with the F-16)
  • OFAB fragmentation bomb | 100kg, 4 ea
  • LAU 68 FFAR rocket pods | 7x rockets, 4 ea = 28 rockets total
  • unreadable (presumably ADEN 30mm) | 130x rounds
  • unreadable
  • unreadable

some interesting things are highlighted there

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I cannot wait for Indonesian su-27skm, will be another j-11a but with a good rwr instead of bad rwr+maws all at 13.3

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Let’s hope so, their ground forces for Japan just got confirmed so it’s only a matter of time

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got confirmation from 12th Air Sqd, rather than the “C/B” classification, the Rafale uses standard export-classification “E/D” with EI for single seater, & DI for dual seat

also dope video btw, check it out

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Hopefully Gaijin adds it in.

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Japan need some heavy bombers for memes

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We need that bomber for the USSR and China as well. I would use it in mix battles as a mini PE8.

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USSR already have TU-95 and China have it’s own modification

the Russian Tu-16 would still be cool to see in the Indonesian sub tree , russian tree
and the H-6 with the chinese tree

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Ya it’s the same airframe with similar load out



the Tu-16 is smaller and has jet engines , while the tu-95 is larger and louder to the ears.

I meant the Tu-16 and it’s Chinese sister

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ahh, it was hard to figure out what you meant, thought you meant the bear and the badger are the same
minor mistake to make

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