Watch somone using this in the bug report, only to get hit by “primary source missing”
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My latest bug report got closed as a duplicate, and linked to a russian report, from a year back… (Not on this subject, on another)
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Unlucky, huh?
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- 2PL’s thermal is using the wrong generation, I’ve looked it up and even though the 3rd generation thermal has a lower Pixel (Image) resolution than the 2nd generation thermal, it has a better angular resolution, so provides better images.
Meaning this is wrong and I plan to make a bug report about it.
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For the F-16C, if you research the NVD parts, you can use the 2nd gen thermal, it’s a bug.
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For the same reasons as above, thermal of Russian vehicles will not be implemented in the 1st gen, even if they have low resolutions.
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It doesn’t matter that the Ka-52 and Mi-28 use Gen 3 thermal, all helicopters currently use Gen 3 thermal.
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They should atleast be dropped to 2nd gen, which is much closer to the actual resolution they have.
How much will this theoretical action take if I may ask?
Cus last time people reported the wrong generation of Leopard 2PL’s KLW-1 Asteria, this is what you responded with:
This is not an attack towards you by any means, but I would be lying if I said my expectations are high considering you’ve also stated Leopard 2s gun-handling speeds should be nerfed to levels way below those that are available to the crew.
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I was wrong at the time, I looked for additional material.
It is also proven in the manual that the maximum speed that the gunner can operate is 30/s horizontal and 9/s vertical.
Which manual? Because JENOPTIK’s product brochure is not a manual…
I’ve asked people actually serving on those vehicles (former gunner of a Leopard 2A5 of the Polish Army), and they confirmed that the turret rotation is indeed done in less than 10 seconds, taking into account acceleration and de-acceleration (which the game does not model, hence 9s for a full rotation).
I’ve also DM’d you about this and have given you video examples of a Leopard 2A6 & a Leopard 2A7V both completing a full turret rotation in sub 10 seconds (and I don’t think I need to remind you that 2A7Vs turret is much heavier than 2A5s & 2A6s), granted, you ignored my message.
@_David_Bowie may I have an answer?
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Since the 3rd Gen of thermal was developed to advance angular resolution rather than image resolution, you’ll need to provide evidence that it’s actually the 2nd Gen.
@_David_Bowie theres no documentation as far as I know that proves the russian thermals have the same higher angular resolution, so I take it that i would be correct in bug reporting all russian thermals to be reduced to 2nd generation then?
I have definite proof regarding the BVM at the very least not being 3rd gen. But there is no documentation out there that I know of of Russia ever fielding anything more than 2nd generation with Catherine-Xp
BVM is 2nd Gen
In the game? Absolutely not.
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That seems like a rather aggressive cop out. The 2PL’s thermals have been gimped for almost 3 years now under your own ruling on the bug report, and now that we pull documentation proving that Russian thermals should also have a drop in resolution, suddenly the 2PL’s thermals will be “fixed”?
As @FurinaBestArchon points out, it most definitly is not.
Video is not used as evidence, the VINCORION brochure and Swedish manual mention a maximum operating speed of 30/s and 9/s
No, I found that in a document I recently found for reporting Merkava.
Yes, my mistake
Can you show me where it states it’s the maximum operating speed?
And why aren’t videos accepted all of the sudden? Because they disagree with your interpretation?
I’ve already explained to you in DM’s that we have power steering and aiming for MBTs in real life - both of which are always used on all vehicles, and have given you examples of where they’re used.
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Report did not use video as evidence, which has always been the same.
- Max rikthastighet ≥ 157,5 ¯/2 (157,5 mill = 8.9°/s)
- Max rikthastighet ≥ 525 ¯/s (525 mill = 29.5°/s)
WT use only the maximum value the gunner can use.
This is the Max aiming speed, which is 30°/s, 9°/s.
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This just means;
Max directional speed ≥ 157.5 ¯/2 (157.5 mill = 8.9°/s)
Max directional speed ≥ 525 ¯/s (525 mill = 29.5°/s)
Nothing to do with the rotation speeds available to the crew - which by timing several videos where the rotation is shown to be much higher than what’s stated, again; power steering.
Besides Type 10’s reload speed was buffed using videos as a basis.
WT use only the maximum value the gunner can use.
Since when? T-80BVM uses stab speeds, so do M1 Abrams. The only MBT which doesn’t that I can think of is the Type 10.
This is the Max aiming speed, which is 30°/s, 9°/s.
So instead of implementing the acceleration and de-acceleration of the turret drives or aim mode and power steer mode, you’d rather focus on artificially limiting the capability of the Leopard 2?
Then again people simulate both of those themselves already, because nobody uses the “full speed” when aiming, only to perform corrections or quickly switch from target to target, just as power steering is used in real life on MBTs.
Lmao.
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I find it rather unfortunate that bug reports are not using video as a source. Videos give us around 50% of the information that we know about the modern tanks, they can give us Rotation speed of the hull, turret, elevation speed, fire rate, acceleration ect. That is a big bunch of data that is ignored. And i know not every video would be valid, but at least some would.
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