‘This is totally safe, trust us, just do not question what data we are collecting and where they are used.’
How can I trust then?
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i dont know how they expect us to trust them after years of lies
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So that’s why the game experience is so terrible (No wonder, it was obvious—most things, even clicks in the buttons of the screens is reliant on the server response (I.e. Internal server error while trying to spawn or Timed out situations)). Oopsies I am too stressed, I can’t calculate and register that penetration 
suddenly is the players connectivity fault.
If War Thunder needs two or more anti-cheat tools why is it that the numbers of cheaters banned each month still high? Wasn’t it supposed to be reducing with the introduction of better tools? I am purposely making these simple questions to tell that even the clueless players would notice this.
The money put on sponsorship in YouTube videos could be used on better server, not more servers. Gaijin is trying to build on a unstable ground made of people that put money in the game and is using it as cope to keep playing the game (Don’t want to let my money go away wasted).
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Man, sometimes the corporate response is way worse than silence.
This is the case.
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I love the part where they explain uhm uhh… Something ( no for real, what part of this can not be explained without a simple google search)? It’s nice words for sure I guess.
That being said the comments ratio the post pretty hard lol
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Alright. If the players of online video games want a more permanent solution to cheaters in video games, maybe you should petition your representatives in your governments to make creating and/or distributing cheats illegal, punishable by prison time. Personally, I would even be OK with fines for cheaters themselves, and possible jail/prison time for repeat offenders.
The issue is not contained to just video games. Those who grow up using cheats and thinking that it is OK to take advantage of society and other people will carry this mindset into adulthood. As time goes on, and we become a more and more online society, the negative impacts from “simple cheating” in video games will become a major issue in all other aspects of online life.
If you do not want the responsibility of dealing with cheaters to be in the hands of game developers and distributors, the only alternative is legal regulations and punishments. If there is no legal recourse for developers and distributors against cheaters, and those who create and distribute cheats, then anti cheats will be a fact of life indefinitely.
Have any of you guys seen how bad some other games are currently? Being absolutely infested with cheaters? There is another online game that still uses Easy Anti Cheat which has become nearly 100% ineffective. I know why Gaijin replaced EAC with BattleEye/Viking. EAC is effectively completely worthless nowadays.
Having said all of that, I do not disagree with many player’s concerns about privacy and data collection and retention. But unless you have a better solution to suggest, the only result will be games which become completely overrun with cheaters. Petitioning your legal representatives about privacy and data collection concerns without an alternative solution will only make things worse.
Are you ready to make cheating in online games illegal? I am. I see no other way forward that addresses all aspects of the issue. If you want your privacy and data collection to be in the hands of the government, you need to also give your governments the ability to punish the offenders. If you are NOT OK with your governments being in control of these issues, then the companies who develop and distribute video games will continue to be the only entities who are able to address these issues.
There is currently no perfect solution. But simply complaining about the situation without offering any alternative concepts is pointless.
Put the cheaters, cheat creators, and cheat distributors in jail, or accept the current methods. We are at a crossroads. It is time to chose which path you think is best for society.
Corporate control of anti cheats, or Government control and punishment. There are no other viable solutions.
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This blog literally doesnt answer the question that we want to know, what data WAS Viking AC collecting beyond the already disclosed information upon agreement to collect data.
Regardless ive reported this to the EU under GDPR breaches (assuming information was collected and stored long than it should be) and UKGDPR is the exact same rules/regulations when Brexit happened so I appreciate the fluff piece but ill let the investigation happen if they decide to act upon the claims of GDPR breaches
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Gaijin, are you trying to explain yourself just because of a threat from some leakers? You’re not the same old Gaijin with the steely Soviet heart from the Urals.
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Chill out dude. I’m not pro-cheater either, but they cheated in a videogame. They didn’t burn your house down.
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Exactly. The point is not to actually answer questions. The point was a ill-concieved and poorly thought out attempt to placate very rightfully angry players. Either that or just at least having the appearance of addressing our concerns. Either way, they obviously failed. It’s kind of wild that they actually thought this would help anything. But regardless, the point was never to truly address concerns.
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I appreciate your level headed and polite reply, but I am being chill. Cheaters are no different from those who commit financial crimes. I have personally witnessed a significant overlap between the two.
It is easy to say “it’s just a video game”, but that narrow viewpoint is not how things work in the “real world”.
The same people who cheat, create cheats, and distribute cheats, are a majority portion of those who lie, cheat, and steal in the “real world”.
Again, I have seen it first hand. My post above is level headed, reasoned, and written from the point of view having witnessed it personally. I mean 100% of what I wrote. Cheaters/cheat creators/and cheat distributors are the scum of the earth and should be fined and/or jailed.
Many cheats steal personal information and then use this information to steal peoples “real” money. Again, I have seen this first hand. It is not “just a video game” issue.
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Objectively, yes they are.
Videogames are not the real world, that’s kind of the entire point.
Great, I don’t care though. Legally judging people’s real world actions based on videogame cheating is insane.
Objectivley the least chill thing you could say.
The bottom line is this: I do not like cheaters. But Gaijin’s Viking AC crawls around your entire computer and collects data that is clearly in violation of privacy laws such as GDPR. That is completely ridiculous. Even if ignoring that, based on the testimonies of Keofox and other former CMs, that data certainly is not safe. The idea that it’s either corpos pulling this type of thing or the government sending them to jail is beyond ridiculous. It’s not either or. We can have protection against cheaters and not crawling around your computer without involving arresting videogame cheaters.
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Wow, my computer is being thoroughly searched to ensure the game is free of cheaters? I like that, after all, I don’t owe anyone anything, so what?
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You can stick your head in the sand and imagine that cheaters, cheat creators, and cheat distributors do not commit other crimes. Facts and data do not care about your dismissive opinions.
Again, complaining about the situation without a viable alternative is pointless.
I am glad you have never witnessed the overlap between the two. Hopefully you never do. But, odds are one day you will. Especially if there are no punishments for those who take advantage of society.
I appreciate chatting with you, and thank you again for replying to me politely. But I firmly disagree with your opinions about cheaters. Cheers 🍻
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You really trust Gaijin to crawl around your entire computer? Viking AC’s functionality is effectively a malware. That’s the way it functions. And we know clearly that the data is not safe. Testomonies of Keofox and others have shown this. To think that a for-profit company is entirely altruistic in stealing all your data is wild.
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I believe the random internet guys claims over Gaijin.
Every anticheat could be classed as a malware. Especially all the kernel-level ones.
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Thank you gaijin for your very poor attempting at wagging the dog.
None of this is why the community is so outraged, its the fact that youve been intentionally and knowingly stealing our data which is seen with the leaked files, and this is just a summary of already known information how the AC works ehich i can find on google. Address the problem, listen to us.
Not to mention this says nothing about the leaks of intentionally using classified and export restricted documents in game design.
The community loves this game, and its truly enjoyed by the players, so how about we stop beating it into the dirt, and then silencing people who try to fight for it?
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If you believe that Gaijin’s privacy is flawed and that it’s stealing your data for the Kremlin or the FSB or something like that, please post some proof of it. I trust Gaijin more to protect my data than my country’s government, and if you don’t feel safe having an account with them, why are you still here? Why don’t you just delete it?
Rest assured, the Kremlin and the FSB have far more pressing matters to worry about right now, and if they want “confidential” information, they likely already possess it or have better methods of obtaining it.
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