Answering your concerns regarding spall liners, MBTs and Aircraft

I hope the official can officially respond to the current issues with CNTT to prevent CN players who are preparing to make another impact.

At present, the number of players in CN is not to be underestimated, and is there accurate information to support the advanced equipment games that have emerged in recent years in the context of CN’s high level of military confidentiality?

Do the staff who reject the player’s submission of supporting materials have corresponding materials as a response?

Does the fact that most of the top-level CNTT in the game are fictional go against the original intention of restoring reality?

How should CNTT develop in the future, after all, as one of the current permanent members of the world?

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The fact that a classified tank, has very few unclassified stuff about it, and one of those stuff being CLEARLY SPALL LINERS they DENY IT ITS THERE, THERE IS A SPALL LINER FOR MK4, Israel literlly is useless, they make it completly unplayble

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Maybe, the problem however is that the US in regards M1 upgrades are not entirely as straight forward as their documents sometimes state.

So after looking into this quite a bit I came to some pretty “obvious” conclusions, that Heavy Brigade Combat Team (HBCT) Gunnery FM 3-20.21 document does not state the M1A2 SEP had an improved armour package, however as noted here there was a new armour package that was introduced in 2002 i.e. when the SEP was beginning full on production/upgrade status, this armour package did actually include both the improved turret side armour:

As noted, this armour package did not exist when the SEP was given the go ahead as it didn’t even have ballistic testing done until 2000 and likewise was only adopted in 2001 when the contract was awarded, this is why early documents do not talk about the SEP getting improved armour.

It is highly likely that the HBCT document is referring to this armour upgrade as it was not initially stated as an improvement to the original SEP, I could be wrong however.

Edit: Forgot to mention, they also state the SEPv2 was the tank to get the Block 1 FLIRs, however the first tanks to receive that upgrade were SEPv1s / tanks being upgrade to the SEPv1, that Block 1 FLIR upgrade is from 2004ish.

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M1A2SEPv1 received 2 gen FLIR block 0, SEPv2 got block 1.

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The SEPs initially had block 0, however starting in 2004 they started receiving Block 1s.

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My impression: You obviously didn’t understand the problem.
Please do your homework and if it is necessary to involve the players then do it first. There is no point in continuing like this, the dissatisfaction and frustration on both sides is only increasing.

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I dont understand why you dont wany to put kevlar spall liners on abrams…

I guess 13.0 BR fighter aircraft toptier would be Sukhoi Su-27SM3, Sukhoi Su-34, F/A-18A+ Hornet (1995), F/A-18C Hornet (1993 ~ 2002), CF-18A Hornet (IMP) and F-15I Ra’am (1998)

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This will not go unnoticed, Gaijin devs deserve to be exposed for blatant bias and favoritism.

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@Stona_WT Since as you said on the previous post we should focus about abrams and this is the general one for MBT’s
It is possible to take a look at this report? What about this report?
Leclerc MBT ( All Variants ) incorrect rate of fire // Gaijin.net // Issues

The previous one got refused because of a single secondary source against 10+ secondary sources, i hope this one, with a Brochure from the manufacter, is enough.

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I’m back to make fun of this some more…

Old Akers website confirming MEXAS was a development by IBD (i.e German):
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IBD pamhplet confirming that TVMs were using 3rd generation MEXAS add-ons, production vehicles would’ve been instead using 4th - 5th generation (including Strv 122s, as seen in the pamphlet):

Quite the nonsense to be basing the protection of a vehicle that entered service in 2021, on a prototype that was using MEXAS add-on armour a whole generation (or two) older than the Leopard 2A5 & Strv 122s, don’t you think?

At the very least you should be making 2A7V completely equal to the Strv 122 in terms of protection (and that’s the BARE MINIMUM)… but better solution is to literally read the evidence provided, because it states 2A7Vs hull was required to provide equeal protection to the turret (and we’ve already established 122s and production Leopard 2 used 4th/5th generation MEXAS, so there is no reason for German vehicles to perform worse, so you’ve also got to bring up the turret to 122s level).

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Maybe make a new bug report? With this “new” information?

Looks like there is no longer any reason to play any other nation besides Russia. Devs really just hate anything that isnt Russian and do not care about historical accuracy, all motivation to play knowing that whatever vehicle I use will be third-rate if it’s not russian is killing the drive to play this game.

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This is so exhausting. The main info on the tank is classified, but plenty of sources say there is DU in the front hull and estimation of 600mm protection against KE rounds. You wont be able to get the accurate information as its highly classified and want get the wording your looking for. So you ether dont care about the american tech tree and just use to to throw out tanks like “click bait” because its just that for you to get $70. There is no reason to play American tech tree then at high br. You can give the abrams 5000mm heat protection and would still do nothing since everyone uses KE rounds.

Sep V3 on its way everyone! it weighs 120 tones 5000mm of heat protection 200mm of KE protection, with a top speed of 15mph get the click bait now for $70 so you can get a head start in getting this newest and great tank!!

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Dear Gaijin

I like the unique meachnism of Warthunder and I am willing to pay for it

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This proves I have spent a lot on Warthunder. However, the horribly weak VT4a-1 makes me unwilling to pay more on WTarthunder, I hope you may treat it equally, only that I will start buying Golden eagles again

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I don’t know guys. I have a feeling that the Abrams is still getting stomped hard…

EDIT: don’t mind the Germany winrate bit. My friend wanted to grind his PSO and 2A7V.

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Yes I know.

the sides might not have DU in them

You’re arguing that you think the sides [of the hull I assume, you’re also being vague just like the document now, lol] do though… if they did, then there would have to be lines in this license for both the storage of those side hull pieces AND for the contaminated stuff in working with the side hull pieces.

why would the sides ne storage for contaminants if they are not in contact with DU?

They wouldn’t, if the side hull has no DU. But then why did you give this as a possible source then for the hull having DU bruh? Or if that wasn’t the point, then I don’t know why you posted it.

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it has DU on Sides, confirmed here

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They made it clear they will not make any existing or future NATO vehicles better armoured because “they believe” or “this 30 years out of date document states something else”.

They also made it clear that they do not believe in Western APFSDS having been specifically designed to combat ERA.

All of this is basically them “believing” the West is incapable of technological progress to achieve their requirements.

Honestly? This is a losing battle unless something happens.

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