An argument supporting Gaijin's claims against M1 hull armor improvements

It still effectively results in the same outcome, though.

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not really, It seems pretty close to what it was before TBH.

That’s what I was saying, though? That the turret basket still gets hit regardless?

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F-15s have all of their IRL performance, I know this cause I was the one that bug reported them to get that performance.

Abrams turret ring has never changed since its introduction, that’s part of the problem.
Abrams fuel tanks are placed there specifically because it improves crew survivability and it’s a convenient place for them.

No. F15’s go mach 2.9 at sea level. In game they break apart at half that speed at between 3-4000 meters.
One of the Aardvark models was able to go mach 3.2. This game is grossly inaccurate.

To me that’s an open admission to the corruption in this game and justifies my cancelled subscription.

@SoundWave777
I see you’re calling the United States Air Force liars.

Sorry but mach 2.5 at higher altitude is the maximum F-15s go.
Same for the Varks.

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That’s why their airframes are rated to mach 2.9?

No. F-15’s have a service top speed of Mach 2.5 at altitude. Iirc they can and they did surpass that a few times. You would be right if you said that the F-15’s top speed is incorrect. Top speed of the A/C is Mach 2.4 although they are Mach 2.5 rated too. The F-15E which is Mach 2.5 rated in the game can only reach Mach 2.3 last time I tested.
Of course they have shit radars compared to their irl performance and no BOL pods and some other small issues but, pretty much, every plane has these

After all, many people believe that game development teams strictly follow real-life vehicles to create vehicles that appear in games
But after playing, they won’t think like that anymore

mach 3? in an ardvark? HELL NO, the SR-71 went Mach 3 and its to date the fastest known aircraft (with jet engines) ever. The ardvark would not be able to handle Mach 3 without experiencing some unscheduled disassembly (midair)

tbf its officially mach 2.5+ and recently about EX someone from Boeing said 2.9 before that was quickly retracted back to the 2.5+

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Yea. Reality seems nice when you play a Russian game :))) lmao

TO me if they have the thrust to weight values and the drag values correct how can they make the model wrong regardless of operational security statements. Everytime Alex Hollings from AirPower says some crazy stats I expect it to be public information.

100%, it’s an operational security measure. But if they give you the thrust to weight and you figure out drag how can you get it wrong.

@SoundWave777
Glad you admit you were wrong about speeds.

the story there refering to is some guy who was in a F111F took it to 50k feet and pushed it to mach 3 which i believe permanently damaged the airframe

Mach 3 would not permanently damage the airframe, it would rip it apart and besides the ardvark cant even handle the heat produced by that speed

There are two key things with the story, though. The first thing was that some equipment was removed from the British-based F-111s and they were noticeably “peppier,” and the second was that they were going off of indicated airspeed

Not to mention the mistake with the engine limiting system