An argument supporting Gaijin's claims against M1 hull armor improvements

The torsion bar stuff is definitely made up. I also find it absurd that Gaijin thinks the M1’s composite armor, even in the turret, is less effective than RHA against chemical threats.

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yes it was deemed too heavy for the systems to handle (hydraulics get hot after all)

which Abrams you talking about

In particular, all of them, 105mm Gun Tank M1 Abrams (most of them are covered here)

Nein suspension of Abrams can handle shit load of weight and above also say they remove weight limit which mean they found a way around the suspension
also you can ask ConteBarraca something

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not the suspension the hydraulics, Abrams have torsion bars not hydraulic suspension
and they didn’t remove the wight limit they improved its weight limit because the USMC added a butt load of new stuff to the tank
also

I don’t know who the F this is?

actual crew in Abrams that is even interviewed by Gaijin

the full name of the torsion bar is TORSION BAR SUSPENSION
Torsion Bar is a TYPE of SUSPENSION
Improve weight mean more weight mean better suspension to handle weight or lighter material
You are heavily underestimate the suspension of the Abrams

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yeah obviously the abrams suspension has the front bars completely overloaded and they cant add any weight to the front of the tanks, oh wait…
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i mean he got the idea its just not there yet

I agree with this logically.

Why would the military continue using a lower front plate package from the 70’s that is easily defeated by almost every sabot round? The 3BM22 was made in the 70’s and (in game) can disable the driver and turret on a center mass lower plate front hit.
Defensive composites have come a long way since the 70’s.

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They used it throughout SEP because turrets get hit far more often if the tank is even hit at all.
Also it’s the 1980s.

Allegedly improved hulls were made for SEP2 onward, but we lack proof. Conjecture from documents yes, but not proof.

just because one part was hit far more often does not mean the other parts gets ignore
its like saying i only do arms day because i use my arms more than my legs
its called imbalance

there are documents showing that improved hull packages were developed well before the SEPs

Sepv3 100 percent gets NGAD (next generation armor package) both in the hull and turret. If gaijin denies it, they are just ignoring reality.
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  1. you got the point of what I was referring to, so whats your issue
  2. The suspension can support it, the turrets’ hydraulic horizontal traverse is what wouldn’t support the weight, as they can only support so much before being overloaded

I’m going to take it that English is not your primary language, so a little word. we often shorten technical terms to the point that it’s still understandable, and gets the point across but have it be as short as possible

i was referring to adding more armor on the hull not the turret
as in heavier hull not turret
turret ingame is based on the swedish trial turret which is far worse than its actual armor

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Gaijin used these values from the Swedish test trial

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exactly what i said

WOW, the message got reported for a SECOND TIME? Wtf.