Also i would like to argue about on the turret armor of the M1A1
I find it having 800mm of composite which is twice the composite of the M1 but despite this it only gain about 15% KE protection and from what i know and logically
an increase of 440mm composite and its 2nd generation Chobbham(better material, structure and density) would give atleast 100mm+ KE protection along side with ofc CE protection
Gaijin also does not acknowledge generational improvement, it does not make sense to the slightest that an Abrams hull from 1970s would have the same protection as one from 1990-2000s or how M1A1 turret dont make sense
Though i think the main reason for this is because of 1st. They are extremely paranoid with buffing a vehicle because “they dont want certain vehicle to be overpowered” which is funny because 2nd. Nation favoritism as they are quite doing it and have done in the past, refusing to buff certain vehicle accurate in the name of Balance and “Russian Bias” or adding non-existence weaponry that quite broke the game(38MT) without regard for balance and 3rd laziness and maybe incompetences? If you actually factor in real logic you would know that double the composite or +440mm of thickness does not equate to 60mm ke protection, but somehow they get the CE protection correct(its overperforming a bit)
Also they need a number because they dont want to do the calculation
Yes and No, the abrams never got DU in the turret, however, the M1A1 HC did get some DU hull upgrades (not all around most likely, probably just in a few spots) hence the name Heavy Common, the HC also had HC specific suspension upgrades so that it could handle the weight of all its new equipment.
When the Marines acquired the M1A1 to replace their aging M60A1s, their requirements led to a tank with more tie-down points, mounting points for a deep-water fording kit, and a position locating system. These features were incorporated in the production line starting in November 1990 no matter to which service the tanks were sent, and M1A1s with these features and the depleted uranium armor were unofficially dubbed M1A1 HC, for Heavy Common. Marine M1A1s mount a different smoke grenade launcher system than Army tanks, and the M1A1 HC also saw use of a turret bustle-mounted external auxiliary power unit. The Marines awarded a contract to equip their M1A1s with a second-generation thermal sight and a high-resolution color display unit in the Firepower Enhancement Package (FEP) program. Marine M1A1s were upgraded with features found on the M1A1 SA like the stabilized commander’s weapon station and tank-infantry phone, as well as Marine-specific programs like a suspension upgrade to endure a weight of 77 tons (70 metric tons).
I think it is important to mention that at least one major armor upgrade is listed as frontal protection and turret side protection, strongly implying that the frontal protection upgrade includes more than just the turret…
The torsion bar stuff is definitely made up. I also find it absurd that Gaijin thinks the M1’s composite armor, even in the turret, is less effective than RHA against chemical threats.
Nein suspension of Abrams can handle shit load of weight and above also say they remove weight limit which mean they found a way around the suspension
also you can ask ConteBarraca something
not the suspension the hydraulics, Abrams have torsion bars not hydraulic suspension
and they didn’t remove the wight limit they improved its weight limit because the USMC added a butt load of new stuff to the tank
also
the full name of the torsion bar is TORSION BAR SUSPENSION
Torsion Bar is a TYPE of SUSPENSION
Improve weight mean more weight mean better suspension to handle weight or lighter material
You are heavily underestimate the suspension of the Abrams
Why would the military continue using a lower front plate package from the 70’s that is easily defeated by almost every sabot round? The 3BM22 was made in the 70’s and (in game) can disable the driver and turret on a center mass lower plate front hit.
Defensive composites have come a long way since the 70’s.
just because one part was hit far more often does not mean the other parts gets ignore
its like saying i only do arms day because i use my arms more than my legs
its called imbalance
