Yea the us usually puts these better engines into service years before they export the vehicle, but ofc gaijin ignores that fact and just likes to give us the oldest possibly variant out of spite
a good pansire player will shoot down all 6 mavs and the gbus
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And a good CAS player can just keep re-arming.
well now everything has a ammo box witch is dumb and you are comparing a 70sp spaa with a back up VS a 860+ CAS that has to account for pansires other aircarft and helicopters with A2A
and rearming takes atleast 2 to 3 min i usally drop bombs and go for air since i uaslly face russia and know my spaas cant do anything against ka38s
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Sadly Israel has no Mav’s + TGP combo (Well… There’s Kurnass… But the airframe & TGP is atrocious) so i can’t really say i’ve experienced being able to counter Pantsirs like that.
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Its not yet confirmed its coming to live. I don’t think theres been a devblog about it yet.
Its 900SP because it can shit on the enemy team with ease as long as you take out the AA.
Most CAS can carry A2A loadout along with A2G weapons. The F-16C can bring full TGP maverick loadout with 4 AMRAAMs.
Not even. Its like 1-2mins.
F-15E you can but yeah Israel doesn’t really get mavs + TGP just yet.
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Ours wont be getting any AGM’s unfortunately :(
Whilst we’re all here anyway, What variants of TGP can / could both E and I get an upgrade to?
see the problem is if there is even a single mig 29 or su27 or any other A2A capable plane up as well as a pansire said planes can just sit out side your range up high and rain down missles on you so you have to hit the deck but then the problem with helicopters come in se where im going with this?
i just played a game and this excat situation accored 70% of the games i play at top tire this excat senario occurs
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Obviously its going to be harder, its a 2v1 after all. Its like saying its harder to win a fight in an F-16 against 2 Su-27s. Which is true but also obvious.
im not saying 2 su 27s im saying a su 27 + a pansire is almost impossible to beat if they play it right
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I said that as an example. But no the F-16C can carry AMRAAMs with mavericks so it won’t be as bad as you think since AMRAAMs travel much farther than R-77s.
If you want to be specific there isn’t one, since we’re getting a baseline LANTIRN pod. Which makes alternate, early LITENING variants nearly redundant since digital zoom isn’t implemented, so it’s functionally identical outside a better FoV.
Which due to the way there is no masking / vignetting (e.g. screen goes black at the edges of the screen properly in Ground force’s “Sniper view” or “commander view”) in WT there is no actual difference between magnification and FoV for TGPs as it just displays the entire screen at some magnification.
The Israelis stay with the LITENING-III TGP, where the closest counterpart the US F-15E used was The LITENING-G4 (Similar 1K^2 detector array size, so would be functionally identical in game).
And there are further options for the US F-15E’s with the Sniper ATP-XR and -SE (potentially also LITENING-LA, but has only been flight tested on the F-16 so far, i don’t know if there is an intent to bring it to the F-15 at this point either, though it should basically be a drop in replacement for the most part).
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US is the best and most advanced nation , stop giving it worse engines because of your own political views , Russian bias has always been cannon thing in warthunder and gaijin doesn’t even try to hide it.
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Now Tornado GR.4 in dev server only equipped this target designator pod
Hopefully gajin implemented instead placeholder targeting pod for JAS39 Gripen C
F-15E from dev server LANTIRN AN/AAQ-14 targeting pod replace with Sniper ATP-XR
Maybe F-16C Block 50 from USA tech tree
F/A-18C+ and F/A-18D late with AN/APG-79(V)4 AESA radar from USMC equipped Litening G4
Man, years later and the US Tech Tree still has to fight to get what it should have already. Tons of backlash, tons of evidence dropping, tons of forum fights. All because we can’t just give it to them to begin with.
I watched the live stream for the past few updates and damn near every time they hint at US vehicles not being good in game. F-15’s first introduction, “Don’t Expect it to be that good in game” (Referring to its Irl K/D). F-117 “Useless” (Referring to the viability in game). Gaijin is not helping defend against claims of Bias when they use phrasing like this. Especially when there’s already a community with a lot of tension. Regardless of what side of the fence you’re on, this is poor PR management at the least.
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Did they actually say “don’t expect it to be that good in game” to the F-15?? If so that’s crazy
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I mean 104/0 would be nice in-game but it’s unreasonable
Yea I just re read it and realized what he meant lol, either way he’s right
Moderator already replied on other threads and here, still yet. clear gg moment i’ve ever seen.
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