It should get a litening cause what was added is clearly a late version of the F-15E.
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Clearly?
Yeah I would say the HMD makes it pretty clear.
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I was not aware that the F-15E also started it’s life with GBU-39s. Curious that a make, by your standard, from the 1990s is using a weapon that first flew in combat in 2006. Or the JHMCS that is present in game which is a 2010+ addition for the F-15E, or the DASH I believe for the 15I.
Ah but you see thats the issue, the LANTIRN in the AN/AAQ-14 or 19 configuration cannot be functional without the AN/AAQ-13 being present on either aircraft. Such is even properly modeled in DCS where the Lantirn is extremely limited on the F-15E until you slap the AN/AAQ-13 onto the aircraft.
Correct, its not functional and should be a Litenting or Sniper ATP as those pods can be present alone while retaining their full capabilites the AN/AAQ-14 /19 cannot. Hence what I meant by “not in game” as its just not the full system.
They historically used them when the F-15I was able to carry GBU-39s, got it.
Man its really weird that both of these nations are using TGP and navigation systems that were made obsolete in 2000 into 2006+ or 2010+ if we are going by other equipment.
F-16C Barak II missing AGM-65D // Gaijin.net // Issues
Not to mention we already have the Barak II in game, which should have AGM-65s, which has the Litening II, like a normal modern NATO aircraft of the same generation as the F-15E / I we are getting. Why is the Barak offered a proper TGP and the E / I are relegated to flying with outdated equipment that is not even introduced properly.
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In variety? Yes.
In air ordnance? Closer to yes than no.
In ground ordnance? Highly questionable.
It’s the most crowded tech tree, but that alone does not make it the best by a rule of thumb. Russia may not have the best vehicles in performance, but it has the best ground ordnance (and very competitive air to air missiles) at the highest echelons. A decent ordnance guarantees damage, while a good one guarantees kills. And Russian stuff are completely able to be guided even through smoke. I’m not compelled to your statement.
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Y’know, this whole thing with Strike Eagle engine makes me afraid how Hornet will be handled
(Yes, I apologize for mentioning it again, but bear with me for a moment)
Right now the situation is as follows (as of writing this post):
US Strike Eagle gets weaker engines but gets Mavericks
Israeli Strike Eagle/F-15I gets (significantly) more powerful engines at an expense of some ground ordnance
Where does Hornet come into all this, you may ask?
Well… Hornet had similar thing happen
If my knowledge serves me right, F/A-18Cs weren’t out of factory with GE-402EPE engines. Instead they were later upgraded with these (see what I’m hinting towards?).
Swiss Hornet that Germans are hopefully going to receive (if leaks are correct) had GE-402EPE engine from the get-go
I’m afraid that Hornet will suffer similar fate to Strike Eagle
US Hornet gets ground guided air-to-ground ordnance but keeps weaker GE-400 engines.
Meanwhile Swiss Hornet won’t get air-to-ground ordnance but will enjoy GE-402EPE engines.
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Because it’s clearly not an early life F-15E.
Also if they wanted to add some F-16C downgrade in terms of cas, they should have advertised it as such. Only reason they are likely even adding the F-15E this soon is for those worthless GBU-39s, so they can say that more nations have glidebombs.
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For anyone reading this, I urge you to forward this poll to your friends so that they can vote on it.
I hope we will get a response by Monday from Gaijin. Gotta make this time count. This is our only chance.
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F-15 raam had 229, but US can’t?
That makes absolutely no sense at all
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But balance comrade!
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The only reason for israel to get a version with better engines is to incentivize people grinding that TT for the new shiny best in BR fighter jet. Balance, realism, etc are all smokescreen words to try and obfuscate the fact that this was done purely for monetary reasons and nothing else.
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And I am not grinding out an entire US Lite tree to get what should just come in the US tree. Feel like that is a common sentiment here. Why Gaijin seems hell bent on gimping the origin country variant, I have no idea (condolences German mains).
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Angry customers spend more, some quirk of human psychology.
The F-15E can, and has used LANTIRN, LITENING, and SNIPER. SDBs hit IOC in 2006 (For the F-15E). Mavs left software in the late 90s. LITENING started hitting squadrons in ~2000 ish. SNIPER in ~2005… Pick your poison. And check your facts.
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Incorrect. The F-15E HAS to have both the AN/AAQ-13 and ANY targeting pod. Or no targeting pod. It is a requirement for stability. On top of functionality. Which will likely never be present in WT. But the requirement should be kept for authenticity sake. Being able to take CFTs off is a travesty enough already.
The AN/AAQ-13 has nothing to do with targeting for anything. Let alone Mavs… Mavs were removed from software in either Suite 3 or 4 and weren’t used with a pod regardless (The one time a squadron deployed with them… and they never got used). Suite 3+ is when LITENING was introduced. JDAMs weren’t introduced until Suite 4+/5 (Hit pubs in 4+, but wasn’t till 5 that squadrons really saw them), same time as SNIPER (06 ish). JHMCS was Suite 5 or 6, I don’t remember.
I think people may be getting confused about the fact that what the US export grade (e.g. AAQ-19 Sharpshooter) targeting pods lack is the Maverick / Electro-Optical Store automatic handoff capability.
You can’t see the difference between engines externally except for directly into the exhaust.
Lolwhut?