Alpha Jet A & E: Alpha Strike!

Tbf these early and late version divisions are stupid. Vehicles should not lack features that were considered integral to their CONOPS just to fill another space in a tedious-to-grind tree.

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God I hope we get the BAE Hawk soon

Lots of things in this game were canceled.

In my point of view, I feel that Alpha Jet A from Luftwaffe better french Alpha Jet E

Loves how the german mains are here to defend their idea,…

But let’s show you something guys:


1982, Farnborough

We can clearly see:
Cluster munitions in the form of a BLG-66 Beluga (behind rocket pod)

CM pod with some sensor on it (unable to identify for now)

Magic-2 R550 missile (grey nose, instead of black one for Magic-1)

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There is also a possibility for AM.39 Anti-Ship missile.

Even if it have no CM’s, the french variant have several good points to be added too,… when is see you german mains crying all over the place, it makes me wanting to have my magic-2 and all the rest of the stuff, for the french one.

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isn’t the nose actually black?

but yeah, having a french aircraft better than the german version, how horrendous (the opposite is fine tho :/)!

Glad to see the missing countermeasures and rockets were addressed!

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Those are Egyptian MS2 Alpha Jets, not the French E we are getting in game. Hopefully we see the MS2 soon alongside the AJ ICE!

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The first image was unclear,… after some verification, and patterns with 2nd one, it is possibly egyptian one,…

The second i agree is egyptian MS2.

But egyptians already exists under Russian Flag (Su-7BMK premium aircraft)

A-4E with guided munitions at 8.7 has always felt like the problem for me. For almost everyone else guided munitions only start from 9.7 onwards (I think the only other exception is Israel at 9.3, with another A-4 variant), a couple of tech trees like Italy or Sweden don’t get them until 10.3.

I do feel like when they seperate air and ground battle BRs for planes, the A-4E needs to go up to at least 9.3, or even better, 9.7

The french equivalent to the AJ ICE is the AJ Lancier

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the wingtip winder mounts sadly were never even tested. only existed on a model
https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/3X/6/3/638ef1b7a375377fd000fd4a5904e8d70b133856.jpeg

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Yeah, that’s why I called it “full fiction”

I know Gaijin stretches reality sometimes (Yak-141 hello) but I think this is too far even for them.

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yeah. just wanted to add more details on this ICE to this thread really :D

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Hopefully we can also see the later upgrades of the Alpha Jet developed by France appear in the game later too. This aircraft has been a long time coming.

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Israel has an 8.7 A-4 with fire and forget guided.
Besides FNF, you have MCLOS at 8.7 for many trees.
Then CCIP 8.7/9.0 for most trees that lack guided weapons.

IMO, I’ll take CCIP rockets at 8.7 over Walleyes.
Far more frag potential.
Same with SAAB-105G’s 4x 1000 pound bombs. 4+ frags just cause CCIP.

Thats cause the Su-7 is russian

Yep, yet any little nation that have been the premium of one nation have not been set in another whatsoever.

Many of those nations :
Argentina, Egypt, India will have trouble to get added as event/premium in the respective nation were they belong too depending of the vehicule they bought.

Are all these trainer jets going to be used as such in the game in the new tutorial missions?

It would be great to create tutos for advanced weapons (and sim btw) with these trainer jets as real pilots do.

Ehm https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1b7vdl1/dev_server_datamine_2330161_234019_part_7/

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Screenshot 2024-03-08 at 09-38-50 Dev Server Datamine 2.33.0.161 - 2.34.0.19 Part 7 r_Warthunder

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Screenshot 2024-03-08 at 09-38-27 Dev Server Datamine 2.33.0.161 - 2.34.0.19 Part 7 r_Warthunder