This source should definitely meet the requirements as an OEM
It has already been used for bug reports that were accepted, as far as I have seen
gaijin doesn’t accept janes as a source. same with forecast international
It isn’t.
Primary sources are directly from manufacturers or military manuals.
So this is a third party source and Janes is then the secondary source?
No, it has been denied in the past due to getting many things provably wrong. It is at best considered a secondary source.
I’m curious where you got that information about Janes.
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There is no primary source involved here, there is a third party player made calculations using a unreliable secondary source. You would have to find the source that states those 40G because they are not mentioned anywhere in the document you have linked.
I recommend that you try to find the original source from Janes and use that as one of the required two unrelated secondary sources for reports. (Edit: in this case likely even only as a supplement to the other two secondary ones)
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But ignoring physics is fine, it makes perfect sense.
It just seems that Gaijin has no interest in balance. There’s simply no point in saying anything anymore.
For me, the matter is closed
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The tech team is made up of volunteers from many, many nations around the planet. Having a widely spread out team makes it basically impossible for their to be any large singular background bias against any one nation or another.
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I have no idea why you got so irritated, i’ve only tried to explain how sources are to be interpreted and what sources are reliable and not. Had i used the source you linked in any of my assignments or reports it would have been rejected and sent back to be redone and re-submitted.
This isn’t a Gaijin thing. This is a normal scientific standard that any researcher/scientist should follow if they want their papers published basically anywhere in the world.
This has absolutely nothing to do with “propaganda” or “bias” .
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Look at the statistics, look at the facts, and think about why the players are unhappy.
When a photo of a graphic supposedly from a manual, but which looks like it was hand-drawn, is accepted, yet a compendium of facts that is accepted worldwide is deemed inadmissible…
And then ask yourselves why people who strive for balance and fair play are angry when they only get kicked in the ass and aren’t taken seriously.
yeah i dont know why im sad about this
JANES is not inadmissible, it’s just not admissible as a primary source, cause it’s not one.
The bug reporting process can definitely be painful, but generally a high standard of proof is a good thing.
Yeah US rates are generally low compared to other nations, but also consider that export variants of said vehicles almost always outperform US ones. The US, as a nation having one of the largest playerbases in game, also has the lowest concentration of “high skill” players, thus bringing its rates down.
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Yak norris is btw in the top 500 in air-RB by the way, and says exactly the same thing. And now…
he gets with russian planes killstreaks of 6-8 people in one game and with plaines what uses the aim120 1 to 2 sometimes 3
same for me with the j10a 4-5 kills. f18E 1 maybe 2, f18mlu same EF same
That picture is from flame 2512, who is one of the biggest bug reporters for the British community. Calling into question that source is non sensible .
It’s from a tornado f3 manual.
Blockquote he gets with russian planes killstreaks of 6-8 people in one game and with plaines what uses the aim120 1 to 2 sometimes 3
Yes, that’s right. It’s not that easy to get a 5-8 kill round with the 120s. It’s rarer than with the R-77-1 and co.
However, you can tell that the 120s don’t perform as well as the rest. That’s my impression
that was an only an example and i mean the picture of the su27/30 etc with the aoa or so
When reports are created you cannot just add the image but you have to add the entire document as well so that the developers can open up the document and double check the facts.
And “hand drawn” , Those graphs look like that due to how printers and fax machines worked decades ago combined with copies and scanners often losing quality compared to originals.
For example here is a graph from the JA37 flight manual (declassified in 2012, primary source, directly from the military)
Random graph
If you don’t use serious sources then your claims will not be taken seriously. You are absolutely free to prove me wrong with proper sources and i will gladly accept information that comes from reliable sources.
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What pic
forget about it doesnt matter
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I saw the bug report, but I can’t tell you exactly when it was created
are you guys talking about the flanker flight model bug report?
I wonder if Gaijin wants a balanced game or a realistic game like DCS, for example?