AIM-120D is just... wrong

iirc the quote was 28 deg per second str at some altitude, but that is also a bit unrealistic. squishface has a great video on this on his channel where he talks about how f22 fm might be in game using his excel calc and public values. it does not reach 28 degree sustained, let alone 34, but from the calculated values its still better than eurofughter and rafale currenty in game anyways

Raptor’s flight performance will be based on educated guesses and couple secondary sources which can be both bless and curse depending on which side you’re gonna take.

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most of the modern stuff are all based on educated guesses, tho not all of them is “educated”

WS-10B flashbacks

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My brother in christ

Bro what are you talking about maps are 100km we dont have maps for such accurate missiles. Gameplay is already turned into, spawn climb and shoot all your missiles at top tier, Maps are too small. The biggest issue of this game small maps. Not missiles

you never know, weight could be overstated and thrust understated

Well we absolutely know the thrust values, at least the bench thrust and it is no slouch. the twr is insane on its own. Then again considering what happened to the eurofighter, it might get struck down as marketing lies, or the intake loss will be something stupid like 40%.

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ive heard its actually 37,000lb each, or higher

Thats accurate afaik. Though it could be anywhere from 37k to 39k from what i’m reading rn.

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Gaijin coming from left field: “Aaaaaand let’s slap on 30% channel losses”

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i think the thing that would completely cement 5th gen FM dominance is pylon drag modeling

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That would. As their pylons are internal for the most part. Though if you take the external pylons on the f22, you run into the same issues.

yeah, it just wouldnt affect the F-22 for example if it brought its 6+2 internal loadout, compared to a Eurofighter, Rafale, or F-15 which would experience a bigger impact on their performance

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Stealth fighters (assuming internal carriage only), deltas, and then everyone else

Kings of limited pylon drag

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considering it will be after the f15 highly likely lol, it would just be wrong to break the 3 aircraft streak their now.

Flankers and eagles with full load might struggle in supersonic regime if that happens lol

The poor hornet shouldn’t be able to hit mach 1 unless at alt with a full load.

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You think strapping 4 AIM-174B’s on will lead it to not even getting past M0.8?

Harriers OP confirmed

Probably, considering it occupies the same spot as 2 aim120 would and it weighs 4x as much as an aim120.