Would it be possible to make a bug report with this and the document that mentions dual pulse or would it get shot down like everything else
current would most like refer to the d-3 as the missile was in testing/development at the time.
The AIM-120D series (well, the D-3) has never been documented or even rumoured to have incorporated dual-pulse propulsion… so that part of it will get shot down pretty much instantly.
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Would still be appreciated if we could get amraams to no longer have the worst turning performance in the game
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Better to make separate reports, haven’t read much about the other issue anyways, I am currently working on a report regarding the fin AoA, should be up in like an hour. My full claim and position will be that the current Fin AoA (15.409184238027873 degrees) is too low, I will then explain my method of approximating some values given the available footage, but the conclusion will be that currently the game does not represent the Fin AoA that can be seen as the angle is far higher than 15, since I am unable to make a reliable approximation without having the image distortion sorted.
It is my understanding that any value above 25 deg of AoA would not really change the close range performance by much anyways, there’s only so much force you can generate by giving a higher AoA to your control surface. So all we really need to do is get it to something between 20-25 degs to improve the missile HOBS.
I think it will still be a bit worse than R-77s and maybe comparable to the PL-12A, but atleast it would close the current gap by a LOT.
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Hoping it doesn’t get the not enough info treatment
Where are you getting the 15 degrees of aoa from? just curious.
Can’t it be seen As the “AoA” value in the sensor view of replays?
thats the missiles body AoA and not the fin AoA
According to the missile spreadsheet the max permissible fin aoa is already just shy of 25 degrees. Am i using an outdated version of the chart or am i just missing something?
That is the maximum AoA of the missile itself. Fin AoA is currently set to ~15.4 degrees on all AMRAAM variants.
I think you misunderstood what I said, I meant that to be the conclusion of the report, the Fin AoA in game is too low compared to what can be seen in the footage, the measurements are imprecise, but they are precise enough to say the values are incorrectly set in game.
The only joy I take is it has teenie tiny fins like an Aim120D and is not TVC.
Means the R-77M will have similar pull (based on Gaijins logic) to an AMRAAM 😁
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Russian superior technology allow it’s smaller fins to be better than the gigantic grid
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Aha well even if it didnt Gaijin would find a way to make it great.
The 120A/B/C and now D are underperforming.
thats for standard r77 with the lattice fins.
though knowing gaijin they will copy paste the g load values from r77
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Is there a primary source on the R-77M’s max range stated yet? Similar to what Vympel states for R-77 (80km) and R-77-1 (110km).