Then lets call it agree to disagree.
Its obvious both of us has different opinion for this case, personally i would like to see Greek and Spanish Leo2’s in German tech tree and Denmark Leo2 in Swedish, you on other hand have different opinion.
Best thing to do is just sit back and wait to see which nation will recieve Denmark Leo2 in this case.
Switzerland is a future subtree for germany.
That is the opinion of not just me but most players of warthunder and even some moderators.
These are vehicles heavily criticised by the community.
You would know that if you had read the words of the players.
The players dont agree with the addition of such vehicles.
There is only a small minority that agree with the addition of such.
My standards are consistent.
However its funny when you said the exact aame thing you didnt call yourself out for your double standards…
Typical triple standards policy, not surprised tbh.
Yes, I have a plan to push the tree to Sweden. Both are great when they grow up. And I’d rather Sweden get Strv123
Oh look how the table turns.
When i claimed Swedish tree will most likely end up as Nordric our Armen claimed any proof for this but he’s using the same Logic for Swiss sub tree.
What a lovely hypocricy.
I do read and probably knows better than you and it doesnt matter if community agrees with this or not.
In the end Gaijin will do what they want.
Is that the reason why you were demanding F-16 and F-18 for German tree even tho they never operated in real life?
Man you’re getting lower and lower.
It seems having conversation with you is pointless, no need to further this.
Sweden will eventually get Strv123 and that will be the end of MBT tree, if Gaijin refuse to add Nordric vehicles of course.
Thats why i said Denmark Leo2A7 will be better option for Sweden tree, it will keep them in meta in the future while Germany can get those Leo2’s from other countries and Leopard2A8 models.
for me it depend when gaijin add it, if its added after germany get more playable uparmored 2a5+ with correct armor (unlike current 2a7v that still have wrong hull armor, armor hole and some modelling error) than sweden, then 2a7 denmark can come to sweden tree
if it before then it should come to german tree, or just not add it to sweden until germany have more uparmored leopard
Yeah, you don’t have to fight. I just wanted to hear from you, let’s wait for Guy Jean
Germany should’ve gotten Leopard2A6HEL or 2E instead of PSO.
Both tanks are basically STRV122 but better, dont know why we got PSO instead of them tbh.
Hopefully we can see those tank in near future.
Personally i think 2A7V by itself is not enough,especially with nerfed armor.
In fact, it’s good to add them, but that doesn’t stop Sweden’s growth
You are right I don’t understand why you didn’t add them…
PSO could be better if gaijin fix its armor, it use 2a6ex hull so it use d-tech armor that provide ~600mm KEP, or even better if gaijin decide to give it the addon hull armor that it can use (the same as 2a6ex)
Even then its still inferior to 2A6HEL and 2E because of weight differences and as far as i know those tanks also does have Spall liner in hull section which gives more advantage.
Not to mention L55 is better then L44.
But if PSO uses DM53, L44 has enough penetration
German users will regard bad forward defence as a disadvantage of ground equipment
Yeah they will be better, if i remember correctly one of them if not both is equal to 2a7v for in game performance, have the same armor (both are based on 2a6ex right? so they have d-tech hull armor with addon), use L55 and have at least 2nd gen gunner thermal (i’m sure 2E has it, not sure about 2a6HEL)
I hope that the two countries will remain united. I hope that both will become countries that operate good ground equipment
Ofc its enough, L55 its just bonus in that case.
Real differences will be weight, Spall Liners on hull and better Gunner thermals.
Yup, you’re correct.
2E uses second gen and different magnifications iirc, not sure about 2A6HEL tho.
In any case both Tanks are superior to PSO because of weight differences and spall Liners.
Why didn’t Gaijin give me this?
If you came out, you wouldn’t have to hear that Germany is south Sweden…
We’re asking the same question tbh.
Both Tanks would’ve been amazing addition to Germany but i guess Gaijin was too afraid to add them so soon.
Oh, okay. Thank you for the good opinion^^