No. It needs AESA and it needs to carry 22 AMRAAMS and also the secret laser from Ace Combat 4. Also the R-27ER needs to be removed from the game.
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Bigger maps (way bigger maps) with one AWACS for each team (even as a target mission from time to time) and data-link would improve the sim gameplay so much.
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Su-57 flies with 360 degree AESA. If my memory serves me right, it has 4-6 radars.
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ik, besides the Su-57, do other Russian gen4 have AESA?
No. The Su-35S has a PESA with a 240-degree field of view
MiG-35 allegedly does or was a testbed for one anyhow.
Agreed, maps and overall gameplay need some major TLC before we start adding even more modern stuff than what we already got.
I am betting ECM will be added if/when ARMs and the new static SAMs in the files are added to the game myself. It would definitely be the best time to introduce it.
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I could be wrong but wasbt it like 180 degree fov or 90 degree each way off centreline?
Like the SMT but with PESA.
Yes. But ±120deg
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Agreed
This is perfect the AESA/Aim-120 passive radar mode. Could launch on the SU-57 and it would never know until its too late that its own plane gave it away. It has the RCS of an F18 anyways so an easy target.
This would make the game an entirely different adventure with NATO HMDS being able to show the Awacs data directly in line of sight. AWACS radar can read, and track both air and ground units. AWACS can also datalink with Aim-120s, Aim-260s, Aim-174Bs, AGM-88s, Really all post 1990s AGM and AAMs. The launch aircraft doesn’t even need to stick around or get involved.
But we should start with aircraft in game that already had AESA, Passive Mode, and System Fusion.
Don’t make me laugh dude, no one can know the RCS of the Su-57
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None of these aircraft in-game have AESA radars, nor should they receive them as it would be WILDLY ahistorical.
The AN/APG-68 family as a whole, the AN/APG-63v1, and the AN/APG-65 are NOT AESAs.
The first applicable AESAs of these aircraft are the AN/APG-80 or AN/APG-83 (40/42++, 50/52+, 60, 70/72) for the F-16, the AN/APG-63v3 for the F-15, or the AN/APG-79.
Can you tell me what aircraft in-game have these radars listed? Why do you think they “should” have them now, if the variants in-game were never fielded with them? How is what they have currently “wrong”?
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You must be dyslexic. The F-15C in-game has an AN/APG-63v1.
Almost no F-15Cs in service field the AN/APG-63v2, as it is a WILDLY unreliable system. It cost $15M per unit and was only given to a dozen ANG platforms, coming out to less than 8% of the operationally capable F-15C fleet.
Then you have the APG-63v3… This was first put into F-15s a year after the model we have in-game.
Yes, those are also heavily upgraded variants. Those being upgraded are already gen 4.5 fighters, and possess a myriad of upgrades that put it to the standards of a Viper. The radar itself is not a standalone upgrade that you can cherry pick, if you wish to have an upgraded F-16 (as said before, 40/42++ or 50/52+) then you can put it in suggestions. I’d love to see my 42++s in game.
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Yes, because that’s what the F-15C MSIP-II was given.
The F-15Cs equipped with the APG-63v2 were part of a bombardment group, and only 1 singular squadron of 5 were given it in the group… That also translates to every other ANG base and even active aircraft, with that 1 singular squadron being the only F-15s to ever operate the AN/APG-63v2.
Our F-15C in-game is from Oregon, not Alaska. It was from an entirely different ANG wing, which purely operated the base 2005 spec MSIP-II model. Seeing as it isn’t modelled after an Alaska ANG aircraft, nor does it have the possibility of receiving an AN/APG-63v3, I don’t see how any option of it receiving an AESA is viable or even needed.
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Incorrect.
Also incorrect.
The F-15C ingame is modeled with JHMCS, ehich means it is a mid 2000s aircraft. The APG-63v2 was the first operational AESA, equipping an entire squadron of F-15Cs by the end of 2000. It not being equipped with one ingame is a balance choice, as that is also a valid configuration.
The specific tail number they chose to base the skin on does not matter, and if it did, would not be in ANG service until well after it had recieved the 63v3 radar.
12 radars.
Only 4.5, and that only brings it down to the MiG-35… Which was nothing but a grasp at relevancy. Almost nobody operates it (which was its purpose, being an export-oriented aircraft) and very few exist. At this point there are more Su-57Ms than MiG-35s.
Yeah… Except for MAWS and RWR. “Passive radar modes” are nothing but missile handoffs, and will still alert an enemy that they are either spotted or have been launched on. On top of having radar coverage of quite literally every angle, it has a very high chance of spotting an incoming missile.
It most definitely does not have the RCS of an F-18… Unless you mean to tell me the F-18 is now a VLO aircraft.
Ah yes, AIM-260s… Almost as prevalent as the Mako!
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Can you point to an aircraft in-game that has an AESA?
Tell me again that I’m incorrect after doing such.
The v2 was never mass produced, nor was it more than a test venture done through an ANG unit that decided to commission them. They were immediately switched to 63v3s half a decade later.
It not being equipped on the one in-game (a 2005 model) has nothing to do with being a “balance choice”, it’s the fact that our current MSIP-II model is what was standard for the United States at the time. A handful of one-off aircraft is by no means a regular choice.
The camouflages made for the aircraft equate to a model aircraft that it was based upon. Our block 50 in-game is based directly on an iteration of 91-391 from 2010, and in-game reflects things as such.
Why wouldn’t it be in ANG until after it received it? The 123rd received their F-15Cs 8 years prior to upgrading a handful of airframes’ radars.
There are 12 N036 radars on the Su-57.
x1 N036
x2 N036B
x1 N036Kh
x8 N036L