Nice Idea but I agree it wouldn’t work just because of the sheer nature of WW1 Tanks.How they move ,how the guns are mounted. WW1 planes might be interesting but I bet players would be stunned at a top speed of little more than 100mph in some cases.Again we have the BR Issue that WW1 like WW2 is upset and disrespected by tier system.
Agreed bad enough with the Churchill and then we have BR Downtiers
Right speech wrong subject.The whole game has been turned on it’s head by letting the player base dictate as far as I can see.Like implementing Nations that players demanded which have countries like Sweden,China ,which flooded the game with Copy paste vehicles.I agree WW1 tanks would be a miserable affair play wise.You would be quicker on a horse.At least we have a WW1 map with Flanders lol,just play 1BR.
Like I said, it is just a thought. I like old tanks, I do not mind slow. Although, I know other people would not agree because they like fast tanks with really thick armor. Which is nice, I am not putting anyone down.
I wanted to see what people would think about having WW1 tanks, it seems to have mixed feelings. At the end of the day, it is up to Gaijin to make the decision. In which I do not think they would going by how this post is going.
I only do WW2 pretty much and like to jump back to Tier 1/1BR sometimes but I am taken back by how slow and underpowered those tanks are.
It is amazing how many ideas are bombed on the runway in the forum but end up in the game later so you never know.They have implemented some tanks that were nearly WW1 and recently too.
I believe they have WW1 dreadnoughts in Naval?
Another thing to add, it would be no different using a fixed turret tank destroyer at 5.3, 6.0, and 7.3. That being mentioned, the Mark V landship has sponson guns on each side. What is the caliber of these cannons you ask? Well let me tell you, it is a 37mm shell, it is no different than the Stuart, Panzer II and Panzer III.
The “speed issue” Well it is simple really, increase the speed of the tanks from the WWl era. Boom problem solved, and I have already mentioned this before; Good example is the Tiger ll it is a 68 ton tank of a beast I can go up to a speed of 32MPH on a RB match which is by the way not historically correct nor is it accurate that being said, it does not matter.
For another example of balancing, the Russian BT-7. It can go up to almost 40MPH at low tier, with a 37MM and no armor. It would not being a problem adding WWI era tanks, taking into account that most WWI tanks had 37MM cannons(Landship, FT-17…ETC) with little armor.
The Stuart, Panzer-II, BT-5/7 all have reletively have the same specifications, just made by different nations.
I support this idea, but WW1 tanks can’t be implemented without adding the 1920s and early 1930s interwar tanks, first. Specific and extremely small maps would also have to be made for them due to how slow they are and the poor armour-piercing capability and firing arc of their weaponry. Something along the lines of a 0.5x0.5 km map would work.
The BRs would also have to be increased; adding 3 or 4 more BRs and additional tiers for the vehicles, so they don’t face the mid/late 1930s interwar vehicles currently in-game.
The War Thunder team can do anything they want if they have the desire,not always that well but they do when it suits them.
We are having a similar argument on the WW2 era separation discussion.
"No can’t be done wont work ,Nations must start at 1br etc etc ,then Israel came out, Boom!!
People saying why something can never happen but it all boiling down to whether Gaijin can be bothered.
The issue could be that some nations don’t have tanks to add, but that’s kind of a moot point now that Israel has set the precedent of not starting from the first rank. But, aside from China, Sweden, Israel, and maybe Italy; I can’t think of any of them lacking the potential for a WW1 rank:
USA has the M1917, the M1 and M2 cars and tanks
Germany has the A7V, the interwar Leicht and Grosstraktors
Russia has their own Renault FT, the T-18, two-turret T-26, and many other earlier light tanks
Britain has the male Mk. I to IX tanks, earlier medium, cruiser, and light 1920s/1930s tanks
Japan has the Renault FT, NC, earlier I-Go and Ro-Go predecessors; bringing back the Ha-Go in regular tree
China had Renault FTs and Vickers 6-tons, would have massive tree gaps
Italy has the Fiat 3000, but is quite limited after that
France has the Saint-Chamond, Renault FT, NC, D1; bringing back the FCM and H35 in regular tree
Sweden’s earliest cannon-tank is the interwar Strv m/21-29, cannot receive much else
Israel’s earliest tank is the H35, entirely incapable of interwar or WW1 ranks
Made a list of all WW1-interwar cannon/HMG tanks leading up to what we have in-game. Some of the lists encroach onto rank I stuff, others don’t, so they’re not wholly accurate representations of what may be found at rank -1 and below.
Steam Tank (Wheeled)
M1 Armoured Car
Light Tanks/Combat Cars
Renault FT (37-mm SA 18)
M1917 (37-mm M1916)
M1917A1 (37-mm M1916)
T1 Combat Car
M1 Combat Car
M1E2 Combat Car
M1A1 Combat Car
M1A1E1 Combat Car
M2 Combat Car
T7 Combat Car
M2 AT Light
T2 Medium (early)
T2 Medium (late)
Holt Gas Electric
Mk. V male
Mk. VIII Liberty
Leichttraktor (Rheinmetall) (L. Tr.)
Leichttraktor (Krupp) (L. Tr.)
Panzerkampfwagen I Ausführung C (Pz. Kpfw. I Ausf. C)
Panzerkampfwagen I Ausführung F (Pz. Kpfw. I Ausf. F)
Großtraktor (Rheinmetall) (G. Tr.)
Großtraktor (Krupp) (G. Tr.)
Großtraktor (Daimler-Benz) (G. Tr.)
Neubaufahrzeug (Rheinmetall) (Nb. Fz.)
leichter Schützenpanzerwagen (s. Pz. B. 41) (Sd. Kfz. 250/11) (l. Schütz. Pz. Wg. (s. Pz. B. 41))
7,7 cm Leichte Kraftwagengeschütze M1914 (7,7 cm L. Kwggesch. M1914)
I do not think that era of your proposal is an issue - from my pov it is more a cost-benefit decision of gaijin - so is there a market or not and if is a good investment or not. Even if you met here some real experts & enthusiasts, they are far away from being representative for the player base as a whole.
Seeing in the last years the trend to more modern stuff and that gaijin earns a hell of money with jets (and often optimized for CAS in Ground RB) it is rather unlikely that the main target group for gaijin (young, looking for instant action) would be happy to play with tanks with the agility of dunes and easy prey for any 12.7/13.2 mm weapon with AP rounds, the offensive weapon topic was already mentioned.
Just by looking at current reserve tier tanks at BR 1.0 there would be a need to separate WW1 stuff completely with negative BRs like -0.7…
Everything WW1 needs to be a seperate game - there are already a few WW1 infantry games that show how different they are from WW2.
Even the top WW2 planes are significantly slower than the worst reserve planes in WT - often also worse armed (although often armed exactly the same too!!) - they really do not have a place in the game as it is right now.
You as creator of the OP can edit your first post - and add a poll.
The general problem of polls is to create them as neutral as possible - so polls with too much bias (“Would you like to earn more money for the same amount of money? Or the same money with less hours?”) are useless.
As this topic is rather complicated a simple yes or no poll won’t help you - and the more questions you add, the more complicated it gets. A simple poll is easy - just use the symbol right next to the “A” in the edit window and select “add a poll”…