I was mainly making fun of that one Dr guy, I don’t remember his name but he gave some absurd take about needing the F-22 to compete with 90’s aircraft.
I will admit, the Abrams isn’t my favorite tank, nor is it the one I’m best in. For the most part I don’t really play US all that much aside from the air (tomcot my beloved). But I know that the Abrams is “technically” underperforming.
But it’s the same problem the Flanker has. Even if you give proof to Gaijn they’ll just kinda go “nuh uh uh!” and keep it all the same.
It’s really a shame that we can’t get all the modern vehicles in an accurate 1:1 representation, but that’s just kinda how gaijin is.
Not at all… The point of M829A3 was to implement a round capable of defeating 4S22 and 4S24.
You can list them off or you can’t, it doesn’t change the fact that ERA is a universal term for a MYRIAD of differing systems.
ARAT and Relikt work in ENTIRELY different ways. Quite possibly the only thing I can think of as a similarity is that they both feature explosive elements… Hence the name of the very vague term ERA.
Can you tell me why they SHOULDN’T have as good of KE protection as they do?
Not sure how that’s different than what I said. M829A2 could take out Kontakt-5 under 1.5km from pure brute force, meanwhile M829A3 could do so more efficiently (and against more advanced rounds).
Leclerc ERA: Should stop 30mm AP rounds, which in game would be ~120mm. Currently, it stops 10mm. It also should have 260mm of CE protection, too.
Challenger 2 TES and OES ERA: Should stop 25mm rounds at 500m on a 30 degree angle, which in game would be ~95mm. Currently, it stops 5mm.
AMX-30B2 BRENUS ERA: Should have >100mm of KE protection, currently it stops 5mm.
ARAT ERA: Should stop 30mm AP rounds, which in game would be ~120mm. Currently, it stops 5mm.
I mean, the literal only NATO ERA that might have accurate KE protection is the M60A1/3’s Passive ERA.
There are questions to be raised about the use of insensitive explosives in some Modern systems and if they would activate when hit by KE, not that it would have no additional protective qualities, but it likely only serves as applique armor, as they are designed to provide enhanced protection to the sides against CE threats.
See how the “Operation” section doesn’t mention KE threats at all, but only lists HEAT jets.
Though it is worth noting that the above brochure covers only the M19 tiles, not M32 tiles or the combined configuration.
