AAM-4B for F-2A

But we have AIM-120C-5 in game now

Yes, which is not as powerful as people are expecting it to be.
You defeat it the same exact way you defeat all other AIM-120s.
No this is not “brushing it off”, it’s a 20 - 30km range extension via lofting higher and potentially motor improvements.

When AAM-4 came to the game I was confused why C5 wasn’t part of it until all the issues with AAM-4 were there. It was sluggish… like my last memory of AAM-4 before today was the dev server it was first introduced on, and clearly a lot has changed since I last used it cause it feels great on current dev.

I’ve had the F-15JM since the first week or so of that major update, just haven’t gotten the AAM-4s cause needed to dump research into jets and there was nothing to research until Thailand, and now F-2A’s announced.

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Isn’t the first image a F-4?

It is indeed a F-4, and the pilots are wearing the same helmet as the"HMD" ADTW F-2A

F-2 Should be faster and lighter than F16C, yet its not. WHY?

It’s not lighter than an F-16C, it just uses lighter material compared to the F-16C. It’s bigger in size, and uses the same engine.

also about material do we get the real material in f-2 (RAM - Radar-Absorbent Materials) or gaijin would just skip over that thing. It makes makes diffrence bc theoretically it got 2-3 times smaller radar cross section. In comparisent f-16c got of about 3-5 square meters when f-2a got aprox 1-2 square meters.

Sorry does the anti ship missiles not work or does it just require GTMI lock?

They work. I’ve just seen too many idiots try to lock a ship using ACM PD and not the GTMI radar setting. One only work on moving targets. The other is an IR seeker ASM, Not modeled yet. Also this forum is for the AAM4 missile please just message in F-2 Thread or the JASDF Ordinance Thread

Specification Mitsubishi F-2A F-16C Block 50/52
Crew 1 1
Length 15.52 m (50 ft 11 in) 15.03 m (49 ft 4 in)
Wingspan 11.13 m (36 ft 6 in) 9.96 m (32 ft 8 in)
Wing Area 34.84 m² (375 ft²) 27.87 m² (300 ft²)
Empty Weight 9,527 kg (21,000 lb) 8,570 kg (18,890 lb)
Max Takeoff Weight 22,100 kg (48,700 lb) 19,187 kg (42,300 lb)
Engine 1× GE F110-IHI-129 (131 kN with afterburner) 1× Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 or GE F110-GE-129 (129 kN with afterburner)
Top Speed Mach 2.0 (approx. 2,470 km/h or 1,535 mph) Mach 2.0 (approx. 2,470 km/h or 1,500–1,550 mph depending on altitude/load)
Combat Range 833 km (518 mi) 550 km (340 mi)
Ferry Range 1,700 km (1,056 mi) with drop tanks 3,200 km (1,988 mi) with drop tanks
Service Ceiling 18,000 m (59,000 ft) 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
Thrust-to-Weight Ratio 0.89 1.095
Wing Loading 430 kg/m² (88 lb/ft²) 431 kg/m² (88 lb/ft²)
Radar Mitsubishi J/APG-1 AESA (upgraded to J/APG-2) AN/APG-68(V)5 mechanically scanned array
Hardpoints 13 (including wingtip, underwing, and centerline stations) 11 (including wingtip, underwing, and centerline stations)
Armament 1× 20 mm JM61A1 Vulcan cannon, AAM-3/4/5, AIM-7, AIM-9, ASM-1/2, JDAM, bombs 1× 20 mm M61A1 Vulcan cannon, AIM-9, AIM-120, AGM-65, JDAM, bombs
Avionics Indigenous systems with advanced data links and EW capabilities U.S. modular systems with options for upgraded avionics (e.g., AESA in Block 70/72)

Thank you for proving my point about it being heavier and having less thrust, one simple google search can prove that the F-2 is indeed heavier than the block 50/52 F-16C.
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Infact it is in your post too…
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I still think a way to buff F-2 without adding HMD is being able to move acm. As this is a function of some AESA irl with extended ranges

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You can already manually steer radars in game. It’s simply not part of ACM because the point of ACM is a mode to target something directly in front of you. Honestly the tall scan pattern already works really well on it anyways/

Doesn’t change the fact that there are ACM modes that are more than just a boresight or vertical scan pattern.

For instance, the mechanical scan APG-63/70 should have a steerable gun ACM mode.

I do not expect the AAM-4B because of the vastly improved seeker. What I do expect is for the AAM-4 to be buffed (properly)

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AESA seeker might be a bit too much RN, or else it will be heavily nerfed. Getting C5 capability for AAM4 is not a stretch though if C5s are modelled properly.

Similar situation here, can take some reference of arguments.

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