关于歼7D的RWR性能错误以及其他问题/J-7D cockpit error, missing IFF, 930-4 has 360° radar warning

歼-7D(J-7IIIA)于1990年8月20日由中国空军成功试飞,1995年12月25日定型,并更名为歼-7D
根据罗马尼亚,埃及提供的米格21MF以及相关资料,数据仿制而来的非传统的歼7。
歼7D与1995年12月25日通过审批后正式进入批量生产,随后于1998年停产,产量很少。
he J-7D (J-7IIIA) successfully conducted its maiden flight by the Chinese Air Force on August 20, 1990, and was finalized and renamed as the J-7D on December 25, 1995.
It is an unconventional J-7 reverse-engineered based on the MiG-21MF provided by Romania and Egypt, along with related data.
fter approval on December 25, 1995, the J-7D entered mass production and was subsequently discontinued in 1998 with a limited production run.

If you are interested in the J-7D aircraft, feel free to leave a comment below, and I will actively respond.

对比与歼7C(J-7III),它的主要改进方案一一下几点:
Compared to the J-7C (J-7III), its main improvements are as follows:

  1. 换装涡喷13FI发动机,增加推力
    Replacement with the WP13FI turbojet engine to increase thrust.
  2. 由KH-03D瞄准具替换为平面显示器
    Replacement of the KH-03D gunsight with a flat-panel display.
  3. 安装大气数据计算机
    Installation of an air data computer.
  4. 采用265雷达高度表,930-4型全向雷达告警系统,941-4A箔条/红外干扰弹投放器
    Adoption of the 265 radar altimeter, 930-4 omnidirectional radar warning system, and 941-4A chaff/flare dispenser.
  5. 仪表系统角速度信号器小型化
    Miniaturization of the angular velocity indicator in the instrument system.
  6. 采用空速一马赫数组合指示器
    Use of an airspeed-Mach number combined indicator.
  7. 可挂载霹雳-7,霹雳-8等新型空空导弹
    Capability to carry new air-to-air missiles such as the PL-7 and PL-8.

现在游戏中歼7D使用的RWR是错误的!它就是换皮的SPO-10,就米格21MF那个RWR,连座舱都是套皮米格21MF,就装了个平面显示器,还特么是歪的,这些错误都需要更正!
歼7D使用的RWR和歼7E是一模一样的,930-4是自用名称,KJ8602是外贸名称,所以歼轰7A的KJ8602A这个名字也是错的
The RWR used by the J-7D in the game is incorrect; it is actually the MiG-21MF’s SPO-10RWR. Even the cockpit directly uses the MiG-21MF’s design, only with the addition of a flat-panel display that is not centered. All these errors need to be corrected! The RWR used by the J-7D is exactly the same as that used by the J-7E. The 930-4 is the name used by the Chinese military, while the KJ8602 is the export name. Therefore, the KJ8602A used by the JH-7A should also be changed to 930-4A.

当然,史实是能挂霹雳8的,但是大家应该都明白,给了霹雳8这飞机就废了,所以在这里我注重于争取全向RWR和250-2燃烧弹还有IFF敌我识别,以及修正错误的飞机座舱!
Historically, the J-7D/E could be equipped with the PL-8 all-aspect dogfight missile. However, it’s understood that if the J-7 in the game could be equipped with the PL-8, it would certainly increase its BR (Battle Rating), which would be a nightmare for this aircraft as you wouldn’t be able to enjoy piloting it at a higher BR. Therefore, I focus on advocating for the digital omnidirectional radar warning system and the 250-1 incendiary bomb, as well as IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) and correcting the erroneous aircraft cockpit.
歼7D 930-4型RWR具有全向雷达告警功能issue
The J-7D’s RWR has a 360° radar warning capability // Gaijin.net // Issues
其实有一点很难绷的地方大家可能都没发现,那就是:gaijin在建模的时候就已经给歼7D加了930-4型全向雷达告警接收器的天线模型,却没有给全向雷达告警,幽默
Actually, there’s a funny thing that many people might not have noticed: Gaijin, during modeling, already added the antenna model of the 930-4 omnidirectional RWR to the J-7D, but didn’t provide the omnidirectional radar warning system. It’s quite amusing.
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没错,这个像揽子一样的东西就是
That’s right, this thing that looks like a pair of testicles.
歼7D可以挂载250-2燃烧弹issue(已通过/Approved)
The J-7D can carry 250-2 incendiary bombs // Gaijin.net // Issues

歼7D驾驶舱错误issue
The cockpit of the J-7D is wrong // Gaijin.net // Issues

歼7D具有IFF敌我识别issue
[被nab了,正在准备重新提交/ Being reviewed as “not a bug” and currently re-sorting the data for resubmission.]




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相关资料或图片来源:
References:

1.航空工业:607机载雷达研究所
Aviation Industry: 607 Airborne Radar Research Institute

2.中国航空工业官方新闻账号
China Aviation Industry official news account

3.中国航空工业出版,电子书《中国飞机全书》第3卷,第78页。
第三卷包含歼-7 系列战斗机和歼-8 系列战斗机,大伙有兴趣也可以看看
China Aviation Industry Publishing,E-book “The Complete Book of Chinese Aircraft” Volume 3, page 78.
https://reader2.z-library.sk/?source=f34de2b6c2beab8993d2b219bd2311371996dd58baf74b8e0d2a965158ebcea5&download_location=https%3A%2F%2Fz-library.rs%2Fdl%2F27276550%2F173cc4
4. 直接搜歼7,美国陆军司令部的
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG/List

相关参考文件:
I have marked the sources of the relevant information in the files I uploaded, added bookmarks and annotations, and translated the important information.
You can easily check them, and I recommend using Adobe Acrobat to open these PDF files.
Relevant reference documents:

Aviation Archives The Development and Reflections on the J-7C…pdf
CAPS_APJ_JUL-SEP-2010.pdf
Chinese Aircraft China’s Aviation Industry Since 1951 (Yefim Gordon, Dmitriy Komissarov) (Z-Library)-3.pdf
Encyclopaedia of Chinese Aircraft(Vol.3) (魏钢 WEI GANG,陈应明 CHEN YING MING,张维 ZHANG WEI) (Z-Library).pdf
Tracing the flight path of the J-7 A detailed photo collection of China’s first Mach 2 fighter jet.pdf
Mig21bis_readme_Eng.pdf

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中系的很多东西本来就给的非常不严谨。。给你点了,感谢老哥的付出。

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非常感谢

你也可以摇点人来,都帮帮忙,努力争取

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能发个Issue吗?哥们给你点赞

J7D的我点了,老哥帮忙点一点我的。大量详实的期刊和实拍图证明,枭龙座舱视角过低和座舱视角HUD部件错误JF17 pilot Cockpit view is too Low and Wrong HUD part // Gaijin.net // Issues

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点了点了

早就点过了

非常感谢!

你新来的吧,这样子报告是不行的知道吗

你必须吧问题分成好几个单一的问题,一个问题一条issue,聚在一起提毛子是不会理你的。

RWR错了需要一条,但是以前有人要求改被否决了
The type 930-4 RWR of J-7D should be omnidirectional // Gaijin.net // Issues

单独挂250燃烧弹需要一条

引擎出力错了需要一条,但我比较怀疑这条能不能改。

极速错了需要一条,这个你要进游戏测,只贴资料卡数据都不够。

缺乏敌我识别IFF需要一条

座舱模型错误需要一条

你需要单独提交6条issue知道吗

啊?原来不能一起提交吗

感谢提醒

z-library.rs

你这资料来源网站打不开。什么神奇网站

gaijin说它想要换皮

帖子下方第三个也是,换源了而已

哦哦原来是中国飞机全书上的啊,这个在gaijin这里视为二级资料,也就是说你还需要再找一份独立的二级资料才行。军事杂志,报刊,学术论文,学术书籍之类的。一级资料指实战手册,工厂手册,生产厂家的官网,宣传册等等。

完了这下头大了

@不是很能抗压 @南京航空航天大学 前者以前改过很多中系飞机的告警
从游戏性考虑,先着重改告警为全向930-4吧。也许他们有其他杂志

唉还是我们国家保密工作太好了,像歼7歼8这种老装备落后于时代的东西公布的资料都太少了,特别是关于航电系统这种,现在歼7D要争取IFF需要找到关于JL-7A这款雷达的详细数据,但这种东西军博馆倒是可能有,在网络上,以我的能力还是太困难了
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唉,我也想让中系变得更好啊,今天一整天都在忙着找第二资料,头都快破了,像兵器知识,航空知识这种杂志又太过混乱,检索难度很高,而且不一定有相关的信息,现在的希望就是寻找这些相关学术论文,这个更是难于登天,找了一篇关于歼7C,D的回忆录更是没有任何有用的信息,太难了,也不知道航空工业出版社有没有其他类似中国飞机全书这种书籍,能找到能解决很多问题
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