30mm aircraft cannons objectively deal less damage than machine guns right now


crazy damage right here

Spoiler

he survived btw

how skillful must one be to kill a humble T-2?

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30mm guns on Rafale (against air targets) and Su-34 (against ground targets) have been consistent for me. Tomorrow I’ll try something lower BR with 30mm guns, but I don’t think it will change.

Mate! Seriously? What’s next - the Brits invented Chicken Tikka Masala?

The ADEN is no British wonder - the MG/MK 213 C revolver cannon was the base product and it took them 9 years to make it available in a fighter😉

The British wonder is called BLT…

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Joke Take: ADEN is a legit British wonder because ‘We’ didn’t fail like T24 from the US.
:P

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The NEXTER on Rafale only has a SAPHEI belt, and I presume you are using the ground target belt on Su-34 GSh. The damage issue is a result of little or no damage from HE round explosions so the guns you listed will not feel any different than in the past.

I also confirm, I don’t know in what world a DEFA 552A cannon of the Kfir C.10 (which should really be the DEFA 553 variant that doesn’t clog) produces a “hit” when it should destroy the enemy wing or cause considerably more damage, but a Vulcan only needs to graze my plane to take me out of action.
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You’re acting really aggressive over a question regarding your proximity to the servers. Sweden is massive and many players know where others are from. You’ve been an absolute douchebag to me all across this time. You ought to log off the internet for a good time.

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this happens because gaijin doesn’t model kinetic destruction power on HE type shells. It’s ridiculous, only Ap type rounds can do that hence why Vulcan and GSh23L are so good because they have loads of API-T rounds that nuke targets upon touching them with a couple of shells. But 27mm+ cannons don’t do such things. It’s ridiculous (again) because you expect in real life to destroy something if you hit it with some 30mm wide thing going many times the speed of sound. Like blowing up an entire canopy, tearing off the propeller hub, or cut off a wingtip.

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rafale’s guns have very high fire rate, they basically buzzsaw aircraft. Rafale usually sparks on fast passes.

never ever engage with Cpt Bel V

he’s always trying to be right, prove you wrong and deny and oppose, and will try as hard as possible, even if the argument was “the earth is a sphere like shape” he’d do his way to say “un actually the Earth is a complex system of layers and plaques forming a geoid”, and if the argument was “the Arado B0 is a shit bomber” he’ll try to convince you that it’s great despite having almost no payload and no offensive or defensive armament and being just a tad faster than the Junkers 288. And if it’s the case you both agree, he’d go his way to say “I had the idea first”

His name literally means Captain Handsome. Can’t get more narcissist than that.

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Sir, the J5N1’s 30mm cannon is not the only variety on Japan

You have Type-5, whose velocity is bad but tracers deal Gold tier damage (went from 990m/s to 700)

you have Ho155 which are on Ki planes, and only the default belt manages to deal some critical hits.

Because it is none of your goddamn business.
I think I said it earlier.

In the meantime, I have the right to remain silent from assuming the birthplace from a nickname.

No shit, Sherlock.

Critique about J5N1 reply isn’t your gotcha.

1- I spaded J5N1 long ago, but I didn’t fly it for months, so my info about Type 5 has a chance of being outdated.
2- In the meantime, I haven’t flown Ki-84 Otsu, Ki-83, or Ki-200 yet, so I don’t have any info about those.
(Unlocked, bought, never flown yet. not interested in those yet.)
3- So, I told him that I am unsure about Japanese 30mm cannons.

Do you really think that I believe only Type 5 exists in JPN TT?
From that comment?

Great, you claimed that Type-5 deals gold-tier damage. With tracer ammo.

In the meantime, you also claimed that 30mm cannons deal less damage than machine guns (Title)
or VIRTUALLY NO DAMAGE WITH EITHER OF THE AVAILABLE BELTS.

Yeah, it was your lame exaggeration.

I don’t care if you whine about japanese 30mm cannons as long as I don’t know much about them.
And if it really deals less damage than 50cal, then I can support your bugreport if you write it.

Just don’t bring ADEN for disregarding the British Wonder and claim it is inferior to the American steady seller, 50cal.

I had no problem with it.

single 50 cal hit also does nothing with AP. Why?
Thats practically saying “i want single AP shot of Aden do as much as entire 200 bullets from 50cal”
I mean i get it that usually you want bigger cannon do more damage but that is still something exagerrated to an extent…

Last time i checked the AP belt of J7W did a great job to ruin a plane with a fast taps, and the ADEN deals not that much with AP, but with HE it slaps wth couple of hits

I’ve been using default belt on Su-34 since I went for belt unlock last, actually. Even with different ammo it feels identical.

well, even if some hits, there is a good 90% of your bullets that are out of targets (minimum)

ain’t debate the opposition of different point of views?

you can ignore me, that doesn’t make you better in any possible ways

also, i’ve never been as stupid as the exemples you gives,…

next time, try to understand what oppose you, instead of being as stubborn if not more, than what you described me to be.

Dont know the names but whatever 30 mm guns are on the mirage 10.0, they are great

The 30mm guns on the ki200 fires blanks 100% of the time. Iv had a bit more luck taking the belts with the least explosives but they are still.the worst iv used.

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I went and tried a few games in the Hunter F.6 (UK) yesterday, before the update and the ADENs felt pretty solid still, even firing stock ammo. They still shredded people like 4 30mm guns should.

I’ll try the Mk108 and Japanese 30mm next, I think. Not really expecting huge things against the hoardes of pancakes though.