Even this I’ve heard before, and everyone who bought 2s38 even pro-players like OddBawZ, Spookston or JustinPlays, ecc… claim that it should be at the same BR as the OTOMATIC.
OTOMATIC has better penetration, and it is a SPAA, not a tank.
I never saw them saying that, and after the nerf, it can be killed in one shot.
Trust me, I chose Russia for that reason, but now I regret choosing Russia. In top tier, anything can one-shot any Russian tank from the front.
I don’t have to prove anything to you. You’re the Russophobic one here.
Again, this is YOUR projection and YOUR opinion. Do you have proof to back up your claims?
Not to mention the fuel tanks on all of their vehicles are prone to violently exploding and not absorbing shells…
Oh, and did you know that the fuel tanks on the T54/55 serve as “wet” ammo storage, like the M4 Shermans have? They shouldn’t be exploding, logically…
Is that as bad as the fact that the Gepard, Falcon and other SPAA can one tap a T10M by shooting their cupola???
Lol, I’ve posted 3 topics like yours, they said that I was against their rules now I can not post any topics in discuss categories.
Anyone of us can NOT say anything bad about panstir and 2s38, just because they are the most favorite vehicles to them
My god even this one I’ve heard before from defenders of 2s38… and you all fail to mention that OTOMATIC can only carry 12 APFSDS in battle while 2s38 which can carry 148 APFSDS in battle…
if maths is no opinion, 148 is greater than 12… as you can see 2s38 is a totally broken vehicle.
Not to mention that 2s38 can target both ground and air vehicles, has the ability to do reconnaissance and is also an amphibious vehicle, plus has greater survivability as it has a low profile than the OTOMATIC.
As you can see, the 2s38 surpasses OTOMATIC in everything else.
Instead they keep saying this, even in their comments.
Also, the ‘nerf’ you mentioned is actually a ‘buff’ that the moderators passed off as a ‘nerf’. Being able to fire all 148 shots without having to reload at 0.5 intervals is insane, plus his cannon never overheats… This is definitely a buff.
You’re right Russian fans hate the truth 😂 and think reporting you for forum moderators to silence you is like using a super button downvote… We’ve come this far, to say that Russian bias exists is pointless to deny it.
Anyway I already posted my idea I’m not going to respond to all the jibes they throw at me because it’s pointless talking to Russian fans who refuse to acknowledge that 2s38 is a broken vehicle and should be at least at BR 11.0 and a waste of time trying and it gives you a headache.
Yeah, like I said, it’s SPAA.
No one is going to sail in the ground RB.
lol good survivability? If you can’t kill it in one shot, that’s a skill issue.
Yeah, but it’s useless. You have to fire at least four rounds to kill an MBT from the side, so during that time, either someone else is going to kill you, or the MBT you’re shooting at will.
Is it Russian bias or a skill issue? Like I said, you have to play as Russia to see the Russian bias.
Yep you are right, what’s the most interesting is, there was a guy using a fox avatar always denies players like you and me and supports the Russian bias trash… I do not know where he is from, but he declared he was “American”, such behaviours could be counted as spy crimel to U.S. XD.
LMAO skill problems… 2s38 Shoot every 0.5 seconds if in 4 shots, so in 2 seconds you are unable to destroy or disable the enemy then yours is a serious skill problem
EDIT: typo corrected
Time for me to criticize the 2S38 again.
Me waiting for Soviets to have even 1 OP vehicle to prove your false claim correct for once.
So you want to increase the BR of 2S38 to a BR that’s equivalent to making HSTVL 12.3 in its current configuration… to prove what exactly? All that will do is prove 2S38 is balanced where it is.
If I look at the profiles of moderators I’ll see NATO tech trees.
While BVVD primarily plays 5.7 BR ground on live, he still plays every BR of every game mode at least internally and most on live server.
Your posts are the only ones defending 2S38 at this time claiming it’s OP when it isn’t.
Others are criticizing the 2S38 by comparing it to its compatriots at different BRs: Begleit, VCC-80/60, HSTVL, RDFLT, and the 9040 series of vehicles.
If you think 2S38 is so OP, buy it and play it. Your stats will speak for themselves.
Comparing OTOMATIC to HSTVL and 2S38 is a false equivalence fallacy BTW.
I bought the 2S38 and surprise surprise, its performance is within margin of error to my other tanks of its class.
Dude, how much do developers pay you to defend 2s38?
I see you in every post on this forum rightly calling for a BR increase of 2s38… and in every post against 2s38 you’ve been pointed out repeatedly that you’re wrong about this vehicle… In fact the 2s38 is a SPAA vehicle, but the developers put it in the game as a light vehicle to give it the ability to do reconnaissance
Anyway, I don’t want to prey on my time for people who don’t want to see the truth this is my last message on this post, as it’s pointless to have a conversation with people who don’t want to acknowledge the truth.
What do you think the other guy will do in those 2 seconds? The 2S38 can’t destroy most MBTs from the front.
It’s a freaking game. Go yap somewhere else.
@Hetaeron
The 2S38 already raised in BR, I got exactly what I wanted.
It’s no longer 9.7 and 10.0, it’s 10.3 which is a balanced BR for its capabilities.
Also it’s funny how you claim that defending the 2S38, which is what your posts do, means you get paid by Gaijin.
Glad I’ve only critiqued the 2S38 never defending it after I got what I wanted.
I love how your post is begging to buff the 2S38 too.
SPAA status would reduce its spawn points requirement and separate the spawn points from light, medium, and heavy tanks spawns. Everyone knows this.
Everyone also knows that SPAA status doesn’t remove scouting ability: Wiesel 1A4 as one of many examples.
Keep defending the 2S38, and keep begging for it to be buffed.

