sorry only russia can have the otomatic at 10.3 with better thermals, scouting and full load of apfsds
Even this I can agree with. Not quite what I want but what I want doesn’t matter, it’s about what the vehicle is inherently capable of due to its modules and abilities. While I think 11.0 would be more appropriate, I would accept 10.7. It does terribly well in a full downtier, making 9.3 abysmal atm. Even without the sale, 9.3 can be unenjoyable do to this thing.
Why are you looking at one aspect instead of all its capabilities as a whole? High ammo count alone may be no reason for an uptier, but all the pros put together makes it intrinsically a good vehicle. I will however modify my original proposal to move to 10.7 instead of 11.0. It won’t see top tier, and won’t be downtiered to 9.3.
I find that to be a good compromise, would you agree?
You replied to the wrong person, cause I’m refuting the ones that only looked at ammo capacity.
Apologies, I thought you were still going off my original post.
But would you agree with 10.7 being reasonable? I mean this back and fourth really doesn’t help anything, surely we can compromise, and does 10.7 seem like a good compromise?
boooo everyone sucks at the game
Ha, you knew where to find me 😂
yeah at your place in the bed room
Yes, I agree 10.7 is reasonable. If it over-performs there, then I support it for 11.0.
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let me chime in for a bit
i think that every 10.3 could move to 10.7 at this point (2s38 included), bar some exceptions (turms, chally mk2, m1128, maybe a few others like the t72b)
but that wont happen courtesy of one of the biggest cash cows of gaijin:
this goddamn lineup probably made gaijin so much money that they can keep the servers running for another 10 years
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Their 10.3 is currently so bad now that you lose every match when they are in your team, and win every one of them when playing against it, I actually start rth whenever I see them in my team and start winning most of the matches, this affects 9.3 (full uptier) to 11.3 (full downtier), if you see ussr in your team then good luck, if you see them on enemy’s team? easy mode, they might start out strong but as long as you keep respawning and kill at least one then see how they crumble real quick like going from 90 to 20 in seconds lol
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i played a SINGLE, ONE, UNO (1!) match of 9.7 ussr and my entire team was t80ud’s and 2s38’s
you already know how the match ended
It is the actual data of how it performs in live matches.
If you think that only looking at the stat card is the “true” way to determine br, then the 2s38"s current br is balanced because the original br of a vehicle is where it appeared balanced to them based on the stat card.
Then again, i personally wouldnt mind if my ebr went back to its old br rather than 6.7.
Once again skewed data. The people that have low skill level and are ill advised on how to properly use the vehicle will obviously do bad.
But the intrinsic capabilities of the tank make it very good in the right hands. Does this make sense?
I can’t make you understand, that’s something you have to figure out for yourself.
Okay, so do you think that looking at the stat card is how they should balance? Ignore live stats?
Yes, precisely. Idc if their skill level doesn’t allow them to play the thing properly. That’s just not my problem. Vehicles should be placed based off of what they’re capable of.
I can get behind this but I don’t want to overreach. Can’t even imagine the hate I’d receive for asking for all these to go up.
Gaijin bases the original br of vehicles based on looking at the stat card.
If 2S38 is OP and next topic would be the BMD-4M OP because it has autocannon, good pen, gen 3 thermals, good mobility, immune against 12.7mm hmg frontal, ess, smoke grenade.