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International Aircraft Tree - Let's Build It

26 minutes ago, Results45 said:

Well given we can't trade or "gift" anything to each other with current game mechanics, maybe later when we can ;).

u can gift ge packs.

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Oh yeah from the online store.....and vehicle packs as well. :yes_yes_yes:

 

Even so, I still don't plan to make bets until 1.75 comes around.

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1 hour ago, Results45 said:

Introduction of French planes and Italian tanks in 1.73? I think I see a pattern here.......

 

1.65: Japanese tanks

1.67: filler stuff

1.69: Italian planes

1.71: composite/ERA and filler stuff

1.73: French planes & Italian tanks

1.75: New/filler stuff

1.77: French Tanks and International planes???

 

What about the Navy? International tech tree won't come anytime soon imo

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1 minute ago, Kat0n said:

What about the Navy? International tech tree won't come anytime soon imo

 

I'm gonna guess late next year (1.79/1.81ish) or 2019/2020 at latest.

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8 hours ago, Results45 said:

1.77: French Tanks and International planes???

 

Considering just how much of a cluster**** the ITT would be, I don't support its addition. I think you can make separate trees of various combinations of the more minor nations that would make much more historical sense than the ITT ever will.

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3 hours ago, Mercedes4321 said:

Considering just how much of a cluster**** the ITT would be, I don't support its addition. I think you can make separate trees of various combinations of the more minor nations that would make much more historical sense than the ITT ever will.

 

My reasoning (and others' ideas for/against a combined IAT/ITT) here: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/99328-international-tank-tech-tree-let39s-build-it/&page=47

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On 11/6/2017 at 7:34 PM, Results45 said:

Introduction of French planes and Italian tanks in 1.73? I think I see a pattern here.......

 

1.65: Japanese tanks

1.67: filler stuff

1.69: Italian planes

1.71: composite/ERA and filler stuff

1.73: French planes & Italian tanks

1.75: New/filler stuff

1.77: French Tanks and International planes???

 

Erhmm no? 

 

1.75 will most likely be the full Italian tank tech tree. tank tech trees are only released near Christmas, so French tanks will most likely come christmas 2018, however we might see another nation sometime during 2018 aswell.

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11 hours ago, igeticsu said:

Erhmm no? 

 

1.75 will most likely be the full Italian tank tech tree. tank tech trees are only released near Christmas, so French tanks will most likely come christmas 2018, however we might see another nation sometime during 2018 aswell.

 

Yes, the initial Italian-Hungarian tanks lineup, but I dare say that we will get at least two of three possible national tree releases as well:

  • French tanks
  • International (or alternate mixed-national) aircraft tree
  • International (or alternate mixed-national) tank tree
  • Initial Naval Forces trees
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Maybe you could add more Australian planes such as a boomerang or Wirriway to add to us Aussies?

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22 minutes ago, AngooseTheMoose said:

Maybe you could add more Australian planes such as a boomerang or Wirriway to add to us Aussies?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VV5AQmQhPLTSKhxrEkkpwoK0xkNyKnWUhKsaRvOAhTU/edit#gid=0

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On 11/8/2017 at 11:33 AM, igeticsu said:

 

On 11/6/2017 at 8:34 PM, Results45 said:

Introduction of French planes and Italian tanks in 1.73? I think I see a pattern here.......

 

1.65: Japanese tanks

1.67: filler stuff

1.69: Italian planes

1.71: composite/ERA and filler stuff

1.73: French planes & Italian tanks

1.75: New/filler stuff

1.77: French Tanks and International planes???

 

1.75 for French tanks (data says they're coming sooner than Italian tanks)

1.77 for Italian tanks?

1.79 for tier 6 aircraft?

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On ‎25‎-‎11‎-‎2013 at 5:24 PM, _TomokoAnabuki said:

one question, how is MM going to deal with this, since some countries were Allied other Axis. and it would be kinda silly to see Romanian IAR's fighting over the Netherlands along against the Germans.

warthunder should be able to devide match making over the tiers, or for every single plane.

so match making shouldn't be a problem.

 

also, we all HAVE to make sure this gets in the game... DUTCH PLANES :D

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Hello people I made a coupe of historical Yugoslav skins for the P47D and F84G check them out on my live.warthunder page !

 

Heare are some of them :

Republic F84G-18-RE "Thunderjet" YAF 1953 

https://live.warthunder.com/post/676049/en/

 

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Republic F-47D-40-RA "Thunderbolt" YAF 1952

https://live.warthunder.com/post/668497/en/

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Republic F84G-21-RE "Thunderjet" YAF 1962

https://live.warthunder.com/post/639110/en/

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One again I got very, very bored during the day, so I made what in my personal opinion would be the best option if Gaijin added international trees. 

I have divided them up into 4 different trees:

 

-The Commonwealth. This tree could be incorporated into the British or the Allied (see below) trees but I believe that this would clog those trees, and miss unique vehicles. 

-Minor Axis. The smaller nations which joined the axis powers. Could be split between Germany and Italy.

-Minor Allied. The smaller allied countries, and those which were invaded by Germany. 

-Neutral. The few countries which managed to avoid joining the conflict. These would make some cool alternative histories. 

 

Although many vehicles could just be added to trees already in the game, but like I said above, it could miss unique planes, and clog trees (we already have enough grind). 

Vehicles from other nations could be added to fill the gaps, just like in the French tree, I have already added some of these to some trees. 

 

The pros of this style:

-better and easier match making

-less grind

The cons of this style:

-poor coverage

-lots of vehicles with poor armament

 

Keep in mind that I am trying to limit tier 1 to 3 lines (such as the nations in game already) above that I will limit them as much as possible, but it is not essential. Tier 1 is really packed, so i'm trying to cut out some bi-plane prototypes and trainers. 

 

I know that Blockhaj has been working on another spreadsheet tree, but like I said, I was bored, and needed something to do. I would love to hear some feedback about this idea and the trees. And what planes from other nations would be best to fill the gaps. If I have left out any planes please let me know. I don't know much about tanks so I will leave that area alone. 

 

Here is a link to the spreadsheet:

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q7pjTdcUkkmkARUJ-H6lpOBdXGHh7FqY7JR6WUDj8Ow/edit?usp=sharing

 

Thanks everyone!

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Heyheyhey howsit going? I was curious if anyone knew of any fitting Warsaw Pact aircraft to fit 8.0 and 9.0. Soviet teams at top tier are currently supplemented by the furthest from historical selection. They should not have NATO aircraft for obvious reasons. There is a small number of aircraft fitting tier 6 criteria that originate from countries that had alignments with the USSR or against NATO but I can barely find anything that would be able to replace the NATO aircraft at current top tier. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

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On 17/06/2018 at 15:02, PickleJarOfDeath said:

Heyheyhey howsit going? I was curious if anyone knew of any fitting Warsaw Pact aircraft to fit 8.0 and 9.0. Soviet teams at top tier are currently supplemented by the furthest from historical selection. They should not have NATO aircraft for obvious reasons. There is a small number of aircraft fitting tier 6 criteria that originate from countries that had alignments with the USSR or against NATO but I can barely find anything that would be able to replace the NATO aircraft at current top tier. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

 

Hello Mr. Death Pickle! :smile:

 

I believe Tiers 5 and 6 will include the following jets (picture the release tree with everything except French planes):

 

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This International Aircraft Tree illustration was the final iteration before discussion shifted to splitting the tree into national mini-trees or alliance trees. Now that Gaijin has added Tier 6, these might be considered as well:

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The graveyard is mainly filled with tier 1-2 planes that has no surviving data on them. It is possible to build a tree withoyt them but it will be really empty in tier 3-4.

 

Remember all these?

 

Argentina:

--- I.Ae. 22 (Premium -- T-6 variant)

--- I.Ae. 28 Super Calquin (Unbuilt Design)

 

Canada:
--- Avro CL-28 Argus 2

Czechoslovakia:
--- Aero A.304
--- Letnov S.231
--- Letnov S. 328

Hungary:
--- WM.21

Lithuania:
--- Army Aircraft Factory Anbo 41

Netherlands:
--- Fokker D.X.VII
--- Fokker T.V.III
--- Koolhoven F.K.52
--- Koolhoven F.K.58

Poland:
--- PZL P.23/43A/43B
--- PZL P.46

 

Romania:

--- IAR 80/80A/80B/81/81A/81B/81C

 

Sweeden/Finland/Norway:

--- J-6 (aka SA 14 Jaktfalken I + II)

 

Switzerland:
--- EKW C-35

Yugoslavia:
--- Rogozarski R-313


 

Variants:
--- D.3801/D.3802/D.3803/Morko Morane

--- Avon Sabre Mk.30-32 (Australia)

--- Canadair Sabre CL-13 Mk.2-6 (Canada)

 

Currently i feel guilty to keep the fairey fox since all of the other Belgian planes are premium.

7. This thing need research but it wont be able to replace the Lincolns since it doesn't have defensive armament. If we find all necessary documents for it then we can discuss adding it.

8. We decided to skip this one because of its bad bomb load and its continued work the Aero A.300 was skipped since it was a prototype.

9. This one was skipped because it lacked data and was replaced with the Iar 37.

10. Same as above.

12. Skipped cuz it was a recon plane.

13. We skipped this because of space.

14. Considered if we ever get a naval line.

15. Skipped because of space.

16. Skipped because of space. 

17. In the tree.

18. Skipped cuz it was a proto.

19. In the tree.

20. Skipped cuz of space.

21. I want this thing so bad! Skipped cuz of space. Maybe we can skip the wirraway? XD

22. Skipped cuz it was a proto.

 

Now that you mention it, may I have a look at that back-up list of mainline and premium planes?

 

This a part of it:

 

IAR 14 DAR-3 ""Garvan-III"" IAR 15 KB-11A ""Fazan"" Avia B-34 DAR-10 Bekas > 2x WM-23 Ezüst Nyíl Letov S-231 Renard R-37 Avia bombers > 2x Curtis-Wright CW-21b Fokker T.VIII > 2x Fokker D.XVII Letov S-328 Do-17Kb Rogožarski R-313 Do-24K PZL.38 Wilk > 2x PZL.46 Sum SABCA S.47 Zmaj R-1 Koolhoven Fk.52 Ikarus Orkan Type 538 Attacker Koolhoven Fk. 58 > 2x Block MB.157 Fokker F.VIIb/3m T-18B Prototype Avia bombers > 2x EKW C-35 Wirraway Aviotehas PN-3 FMA AeMB.2 Irbitis VEF I-16 IAR-80M Anbo-VIII Nord N.1402 Noroit Reanrd R-38 Fokker S.14 MD.453 mystere IIIN Hanriot NC.600          

 

 

Some would work for Tier 3.  Plus the minimum aircraft needed at a tier in column is two, so there should be enough to fill the tree.

 

The only sections that would really be in-need of replacing would be Tier 2 fighters (easy enough) and Tier 3 bombers.

 

 

Aside from recent speculation and efforts in international mini-trees, there are 3 stages of progress you can still help in our unified International Air Tech Tree project:

  1. Creating a non-French IATT filled with aircraft in Tiers 1-6 (via Photoshop).
  2. Drafting & releasing a suggestion for a unified International Air Tech Tree.
  3. Piecing-together history and performance data-sheet info for each of the aircraft (optional, but helps Gaijin out).
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According to this ex-Gaijin employee, Gaijin is not considering any type of international tree ever. In fact they want separate trees for Eastern European nations including turkey (for some reason.)  Here is the video: 1:43 for tech tree info.

Its nice to dream tho.

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Sorry to interrupt your idea for an international tech-tree, but I have found enough aircraft, to make an entire Yugoslav air tech tree:

 

List of Yugoslav possible aircraft for a potential Yugoslav air tech tree for War Thunder:

 

I. Aircraft


II. Information about said aircrafts


III. Tech Tree


IV. Sources

 


I. Aircraft

 


Ikarus:


-Ikarus IK-2
-Ikarus Orkan
-Ikarus S-49 A
-Ikarus S-49 C
-Ikarus/Utva 213 "Vihor"
-Ikarus IO (Izviđač, Obalni eng. coastal reconessance aircraft)


Rogožarski:


-Rogožarski IK-3 (1st prototype)
-Rogožarski IK-3 (2nd prototype)
-Rogožarski IK-3 (1st production series)
-Rogožarski IK-5
-Rogožarski PVT
-Rogožarski PVT-H (floatplane version)
-Rogožarski R-100
-Rogožarski R-313
-Rogožarski SIM-XVI-H


Zmaj:


-Zmaj R-1


Soko:


-Soko 522
-Soko J-20
-Soko J-21 "Jastreb"


Foreign aircraft used by Yugoslav airforce:


-Hawker Fury
-Hawker Hurricane
-Bristol Blenheim
-Yakovlev Yak-1
-Yakovlev Yak-3
-Messerschmidt Bf-109 E3a
-Canadair Cl-13 F.Mk.4
-Republic F-84 G-21 RE

 

 

 

II. Information about said aircrafts

 

 

Ikarus:


Ikarus IK-2:


General characteristics


-Crew: 1
-Length: 7.88 m (25 ft 10 in)
-Wingspan: 11.4 m (37 ft 5 in)
-Height: 3.84 m (12 ft 7 in)
-Wing area: 18 m2 (190 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 1,502 kg (3,311 lb)
-Gross weight: 1,857 kg (4,094 lb)
-Fuel capacity: 250 kg (550 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs liquid-cooled V-12 piston engine, 640 kW (860 shp)
-Propellers: 3-bladed adjustable pitch


Performance


-Maximum speed: 435 km/h (270 mph; 235 kn) at 5,000 m (16,404 ft)
-Cruise speed: 250 km/h (155 mph; 135 kn)
-Range: 700 km (435 mi; 378 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,000 ft)
-Time to altitude: 5 minutes 25 seconds to 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
-Wing loading: 103 kg/m2 (21 lb/sq ft)


Armament


-1 × 20 mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404 cannon with 60 rounds in a spiral drum
-2 × 7.92 mm Browning/FN machine guns with 250 rounds per gun

 

Ikarus Orkan:


General characteristics


-Crew: 3
-Length: 10.00 m (32 ft 10 in)
-Wingspan: 13.25 (43 ft 6 in)
-Height: 3.20 m (10 ft 6 in)
-Empty weight: 2,870 kg (6,330 lb)
-Loaded weight: 4500 kg (9,900 lb)
-Powerplant: 2 × Fiat A.74 RC.38 radial engine, 617.65 kw () each


Performance


-Cruise speed: 468 km/h (291 mph)
-Range: 1,200 km (750 mi)
-Service ceiling: 11,000 m (36,000 ft)
-Rate of climb: 15 m/s ()


Armament


-Guns: 3 × 20 mm cannon, 3 x 7.92 mm machine gun
-Bombs: 4 x 106 kg

 

Ikarus S-49A


Engine: Klimov VK-105PF, 1180 hp
Wingspan: 10.30 m
Length: 8.43 m
Height: 3.20 m
Wing area: 16.60 sq.m
Empty weight: 2320 kg
Normal take-off weight: 2950 kg
Maximum speed: 554 kph
Range: 690 km
Rate of climb: 1026 m / min
Ceiling: 10,000 m
Crew: 1


Armament:


1 x 20-mm motorpushka ShVAK with 120 rounds
2 x 12.7 mm UBS machine gun with 200 rounds

 

Ikarus S-49C


Engine: 1 × Hispano-Suiza 12Z-17, 1,104 kW (1,500 hp)
Length: 9.06 m (29 ft 83in)
Wingspan: 10.30 m (33 ft 91 in)
Height: 2.90 m (9 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 16.65 m2 (179 ft2)
Empty weight: 2,818 kg (6,200 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 3,568 kg (7,850 lb)
Maximum speed: 628 km/h (339 knots, 390 mph) at 1,525 m (5,000 ft)
Range: 690 km (373 nm, 429 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (33,000 ft)
Climb to 6,000 m (19,700 ft): 6 min 54 sec


Armament


1 × 20 mm MG-151/20 cannon
2 × .50 Colt Browning M2 machine guns with 650 rounds per gun
2 × 50 kg (110 lb) bombs or 4 × 5 in HVAR missiles
Crew: one pilot

 

Ikarus 213 "Vihor"


General characteristics


-Crew: 2
-Length: 11.52 m (37 ft 10 in)
-Wingspan: 11.0 m (36 ft 1 in)
-Height: 3.58 m (11 ft 9 in)
-Gross weight: 2,300 kg (5,071 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Ranger SVG-770C-1B air-cooled inverted V12 engine, 390 kW (520 hp)


Performance


-Maximum speed: 362 km/h (225 mph; 195 kn)
-Stall speed: 118 km/h (73 mph; 64 kn)
-Service ceiling: 7,000 m (23,000 ft)


Armament


-Guns: 2× machine guns
-Bombs: 2× 50 kg (110 lb) or 4× 25 kg (55 lb) bombs

 

Ikarus IO


-Modification IO
-Wingspan: 15,20m
-Length: 10,40m
-Height: 3,52m
-Wing area, 47,50m²
-Weight in kg:
- empty: 1520kg

-maximum takeoff weight:  2450kg
-Engine: type 1 PD Librerti L-12
-Power, hp 1 x 400
-Maximum speed:  170 km/h
-Cruising speed: 145 km/h
-Practical range: 600km
-Practical ceiling: 4500m
-Crew: 3 people
-Weapon: one mobile front 7.7-mm Darne machine gun
-up to 250 kg of light bombs

 


Rogožarski:


Rogožarski Ik-3 (1st prototype)


General characteristics


Crew: 1
-Length: 8 m (26 ft 3 in)
-Wingspan: 10.3 m (33 ft 10 in)
-Height: 3.25 m (10 ft 8 in)
-Wing area: 16.5 m2 (178 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 2,048 kg (4,515 lb)
-Gross weight: 2,630 kg (5,798 lb)
-Fuel capacity: 330 l (73 imp gal; 87 US gal)
-Powerplant: 1 × Avia-built Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs liquid-cooled V-12 piston engine (980 hp (730 kW) at 5,000 m (16,000 ft))
-Propellers: 3-bladed adjustable pitch


Performance


-Maximum speed: 527 km/h (327 mph; 285 kn)
-Cruise speed: 400 km/h (249 mph; 216 kn)
-Range: 785 km (488 mi; 424 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 9,400 m (30,800 ft)
-Time to altitude: 7 minutes to 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
-Wing loading: 159.4 kg/m2 (32.6 lb/sq ft)


Armament


-1 × Oerlikon FF 20 mm cannon
-2 × 7.92 mm Browning/FN machine guns with 500 rounds per gun

 

Rogožarski Ik-3 (1st production series)


-mostly same as 1st prototype
-new cockpit
-lenght increased from 7,85 m to 8,0 m
-speed: 535 km/h


Rogožarski Ik-3 (2nd production series)


-mostly same as 1st prototype and 1st production series
-lenght increased to 8,10 m
-speed: 540 km/h

 

Rogožarski IK-5


Modification: IK-5
Wing span:  12,13m
Length:  10,02m
Height: unknown
Wing area: unknown
Weight: unknown
Engine: type 2 PD Hispano-Suisa H.38 \ 39
Power: hp 2 x 820
Maximum speed: 690 km/h
Cruising speed: unknown
Practical range: 1340km
Rate of climb: 1000m/min
Practical ceiling: 11000m
Crew: 1
Armament: two 20-mm cannons and four 7.92-mm machine guns
the bomb load is 200 kg.

 

Rogožarski PVT


crew: 2
lenght: 7,38m
wing span: 11,20km
height: 2,10 m
wing area: 22,10m²
weight (empty): 965 kg
maximum takeoff weight: 1310 kg
cruising speed: unknown     
maximum speed: 240 km/h     
practical ceiling: 7000 m     
range:    550 km     
engine:     1 × 7-cylinder radial engine Gnome-Rhône 7K Titan Major; 310 kW (421 PS)
armament: 1 synchronised 7,7-mm-MG

 

Rogožarski PVT-H (floatplane version)


crew: 2
lenght: 8,25 m
wing span: 11,20 m
height: 3,15 m
wing area: 22,10 m²
weight (empty): 1150 kg
maximum takeoff weight: 1510 kg
cruising speed: unknown
maximum speed: 235 km/h
practical ceiling: 6360 m
range: 450 km
engine: 1 × 7-cylinder radial engine Gnome-Rhône 7K Titan Major; 310 kW (421 PS)
armament: 1 synchronised 7,7-mm-MG

 

Rogožarski R-100


General characteristics


-Crew: 1
-Length: 7.35 m (24 ft 1 in)
-Wingspan: 10.20 m (33 ft 6 in)
-Height: 3.00 m (9 ft 10 in)
-Wing area: 20.56 m2 (221.3 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 1,024 kg (2,258 lb)
-Gross weight: 1,326 kg (2,923 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Gnome-Rhône 7K 7-cylinder radial, 313 kW (420 hp)
-Propellers: 2-bladed


Performance


-Maximum speed: 260 km/h (162 mph; 140 kn) 251 at sea level
-Range: 473 km (294 mi; 255 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 7,750 m (25,430 ft)
-Rate of climb: 5.42 m/s (1,067 ft/min)


Armament


-Guns: 1 x 7,7 mm Darne
-Bombs: 1 x 100 kg

 

Rogožarski R-313


General characteristics


-Crew: 2
-Length: 11.00 m (36 ft 1 in)
-Wingspan: 13.00 m (42 ft 8 in)
-Height: 2.68 m (8 ft 10 in)
-Wing area: 26.40 m2 (284.2 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 2,950 kg (6,504 lb)
-Gross weight: 4,270 kg (9,414 lb)
-Powerplant: 2 × Walter Sagitta inverted air-cooled V-12 piston engines, 368 kW (493 hp)        each
-Propellers: 3-bladed


Performance


-Maximum speed: 376 km/h (234 mph; 203 kn) 450 at sea level
-Range: 1,000 km (621 mi; 540 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 8,000 m (26,000 ft)
-Rate of climb: 8.33 m/s (1,640 ft/min)


Armament


-1 × 20-mm-Hispano-Suiza HS.404
-1 × 7,92-mm-MG M.38 Browning FN
-up to 400 kg of Bombs

 

Rogožarski SIM-XVI-H


General characteristics


Crew: 3
Length: 11.20 m (36 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 15.20 m (49 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.48 m (14 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 3,756 m2 (40,430 sq ft)
Empty weight: 2,230 kg (4,916 lb)
Gross weight: 3,350 kg (7,385 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Argus As-10c (Argus As-10e) 8-cylinder V-line, 180 kW (240 hp) each


Performance


Maximum speed: 208 km/h (129 mph; 112 kn) 243 at sea level
Minimum control speed: 93 km/h (58 mph; 50 kn)
Range: 840 km (522 mi; 454 nmi)
Service ceiling: 4,340 m (14,240 ft)
Rate of climb: 3.87 m/s (762 ft/min) to 1,000 m (3,281 ft)


Armament


guns: 2x7,9 mm
bombs: 1 х 100 kg; or 2 x 50 kg; or 12 x 12 kg

 

 

Zmaj:


Zmaj R-1


General characteristics


-Crew: 3–4
-Length: 12.78 m (41 ft 11 in)
-Wingspan: 14.40 m (47 ft 3 in)
-Height: 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in)
-Wing area: 33.80 m2 (363.8 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 2,600 kg (5,732 lb)
-Gross weight: 5,094 kg (11,230 lb)
-Max takeoff weight: 5,664 kg (12,487 lb)
-Powerplant: 2 × Hispano-Suiza 14AB 14-cyl. air-cooled radial piston engine, 552 kW (740 hp) each
-Propellers: 3-bladed


Performance


-Maximum speed: 450 km/h (280 mph; 243 kn)
-Cruise speed: 320 km/h (199 mph; 173 kn)
-Range: 1,000 km (621 mi; 540 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 10,000 m (33,000 ft)
-Rate of climb: 5.55 m/s (1,093 ft/min)


Armament


-Guns: 2x 20 mm (0.787 in) Oerlikon cannon, and 4x 7.9 mm (0.311 in) machine guns
-Bombs: 1,600 kg (3,500 lb) of bombs carried internally

 

 

Soko:


Soko 552:


General characteristics


-Crew: two
-Length: 9.2 m (30 ft 2 in)
-Wingspan: 11.0 m (36 ft)
-Height: 3.58 m (11 ft 9 in)
-Max. takeoff weight: 2,400 kg (5,280 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Pratt & Whitney R-1340-AN-1 Wasp air-cooled, 441 kW (600 hp)


Performance


-Maximum speed: 351 km/h (190 knots, 218 mph)
-Range: 978 km (524 nmi, 603 mi)
-Service ceiling: 7,000 m (22,960 ft)


Armament


-2 x 7.9 mm machine guns
-4 x 50 kg bombs

 

Soko J-20 "Kraguj" (eng: sparrowhawk):


General characteristics


-Crew: 1
-Length: 7.93 m (26 ft 0¼ in)
-Wingspan: 10.64 m (34 ft 11 in)
-Height: 3.00 m (9 ft 10in)
-Wing area: 17.0 m² (183 ft²)
-Airfoil: NACA 4415
-Empty weight: 1130 kg (2,491 lb)
-Max. takeoff weight: 1624 kg (3,580 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming GSO-480-B1A6 6-cylinder air cooled horizontally opposed, 254 kW (340 hp)


Performance


-Maximum speed: 295 km/h (159 knots, 183 mph) at 1,500 m (5,000 ft)
-Cruise speed: 280 km/h (151 knots, 174 mph)
-Stall speed: 88 km/h (48 knots 55 mph)
-Range: 800 km (475 NM, 500 mi)


Armament


-Guns: 2 × 7.7 mm Colt–Browning Mk.II machine guns (650 rounds each)
-Rockets: 2 × 12 round rocket pack or 6 × 57 mm or 127 mm rocket
-Bombs: 2 × 100 kg (220 lb) bombs

 

Soko J-21 "Jastreb":


Type (Usage):                                       Groundattacker
Crew:                                                     1 pilot
Engine:                                                  one Rolls-Royce Viper 531 with 13,20 kN
Wingspan:                                              11,68m
Lenght:                                                   10,88m
Hight:                                                      3,61m
Wingarea:                                              19,43m²
Weight (Empty):                                      2694kg
Maximum takeoff weight:                         5100kg
Top Speed:                                             724 km/h
Climb rate:                                              22,3 m/s
Cealing:                                                  12.000m
Range:                                                   1150km
Armament:                                             -3 x 12,7-mm-MG Colt-Browning M3 (135 rounds per MG)                                                                             
                                                              -up to 800kg of bombs
                                                              -unguided rockets in pods on 2 - 8 hardpoints

 

 

III. Tech tree


Rank I.        Hawker Fury                                           R-100                                            Ikarus-IO


                   Rogožarski PVT                                      R-313


                   Rogožarski PVT-H (floatplane)


Rank II.        Ik-213                                                        Hawker Hurricane                         Bristol Blenheim


                    Ik-2                                                            Yak-1                                            Rogožarski R-SIM-XVI-H

 

Rank III.        Ik-3 (prototype)                                         Bf-109 E3a                                   Ik-5


                     Ik-3 (1st production series)                       Yak-3
                     Ik-3 (2nd production series)


Rank IV.        S-49 A                                                                                                            Zmaj R-1
                     S-49 C                                                                                                            Ikarus Orkan
                                                                                                                                            Soko 552
                                                                                                                                            Soko J-20 "Kraguj"


Rank V.        Cl-13 F.Mk.4                                              F-84 G-21 RE                                Soko J-21 "Jastreb"

 


IV. Sources


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlkkEBQg5As&t=160s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_IK-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_S-49
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_Orkan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_IO
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/flyboat/ikarusio.html
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/ik5.html
https://www.plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/ikarus-ik-2/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utva_213_Vihor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_SIM-XIV-H
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_PVT
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_PVT
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_PWT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-313
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-313
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-100
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://www.plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/rogozarski-ik-3/
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zmaj_R-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zmaj_R-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-20_Kraguj
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-21_Jastreb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_522
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_522

 

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On 29/09/2018 at 07:24, AragornderHeld said:

Sorry to interrupt your idea for an international tech-tree, but I have found enough aircraft, to make an entire Yugoslav air tech tree:

 

List of Yugoslav possible aircraft for a potential Yugoslav air tech tree for War Thunder:

 

I. Aircraft


II. Information about said aircrafts


III. Tech Tree


IV. Sources

 


I. Aircraft

 


Ikarus:


-Ikarus IK-2
-Ikarus Orkan
-Ikarus S-49 A
-Ikarus S-49 C
-Ikarus/Utva 213 "Vihor"
-Ikarus IO (Izviđač, Obalni eng. coastal reconessance aircraft)


Rogožarski:


-Rogožarski IK-3 (1st prototype)
-Rogožarski IK-3 (2nd prototype)
-Rogožarski IK-3 (1st production series)
-Rogožarski IK-5
-Rogožarski PVT
-Rogožarski PVT-H (floatplane version)
-Rogožarski R-100
-Rogožarski R-313
-Rogožarski SIM-XVI-H


Zmaj:


-Zmaj R-1


Soko:


-Soko 522
-Soko J-20
-Soko J-21 "Jastreb"


Foreign aircraft used by Yugoslav airforce:


-Hawker Fury
-Hawker Hurricane
-Bristol Blenheim
-Yakovlev Yak-1
-Yakovlev Yak-3
-Messerschmidt Bf-109 E3a
-Canadair Cl-13 F.Mk.4
-Republic F-84 G-21 RE

 

 

 

II. Information about said aircrafts

Spoiler

 

 

Ikarus:


Ikarus IK-2:


General characteristics


-Crew: 1
-Length: 7.88 m (25 ft 10 in)
-Wingspan: 11.4 m (37 ft 5 in)
-Height: 3.84 m (12 ft 7 in)
-Wing area: 18 m2 (190 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 1,502 kg (3,311 lb)
-Gross weight: 1,857 kg (4,094 lb)
-Fuel capacity: 250 kg (550 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs liquid-cooled V-12 piston engine, 640 kW (860 shp)
-Propellers: 3-bladed adjustable pitch


Performance


-Maximum speed: 435 km/h (270 mph; 235 kn) at 5,000 m (16,404 ft)
-Cruise speed: 250 km/h (155 mph; 135 kn)
-Range: 700 km (435 mi; 378 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,000 ft)
-Time to altitude: 5 minutes 25 seconds to 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
-Wing loading: 103 kg/m2 (21 lb/sq ft)


Armament


-1 × 20 mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404 cannon with 60 rounds in a spiral drum
-2 × 7.92 mm Browning/FN machine guns with 250 rounds per gun

 

Ikarus Orkan:


General characteristics


-Crew: 3
-Length: 10.00 m (32 ft 10 in)
-Wingspan: 13.25 (43 ft 6 in)
-Height: 3.20 m (10 ft 6 in)
-Empty weight: 2,870 kg (6,330 lb)
-Loaded weight: 4500 kg (9,900 lb)
-Powerplant: 2 × Fiat A.74 RC.38 radial engine, 617.65 kw () each


Performance


-Cruise speed: 468 km/h (291 mph)
-Range: 1,200 km (750 mi)
-Service ceiling: 11,000 m (36,000 ft)
-Rate of climb: 15 m/s ()


Armament


-Guns: 3 × 20 mm cannon, 3 x 7.92 mm machine gun
-Bombs: 4 x 106 kg

 

Ikarus S-49A


Engine: Klimov VK-105PF, 1180 hp
Wingspan: 10.30 m
Length: 8.43 m
Height: 3.20 m
Wing area: 16.60 sq.m
Empty weight: 2320 kg
Normal take-off weight: 2950 kg
Maximum speed: 554 kph
Range: 690 km
Rate of climb: 1026 m / min
Ceiling: 10,000 m
Crew: 1


Armament:


1 x 20-mm motorpushka ShVAK with 120 rounds
2 x 12.7 mm UBS machine gun with 200 rounds

 

Ikarus S-49C


Engine: 1 × Hispano-Suiza 12Z-17, 1,104 kW (1,500 hp)
Length: 9.06 m (29 ft 83in)
Wingspan: 10.30 m (33 ft 91 in)
Height: 2.90 m (9 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 16.65 m2 (179 ft2)
Empty weight: 2,818 kg (6,200 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 3,568 kg (7,850 lb)
Maximum speed: 628 km/h (339 knots, 390 mph) at 1,525 m (5,000 ft)
Range: 690 km (373 nm, 429 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (33,000 ft)
Climb to 6,000 m (19,700 ft): 6 min 54 sec


Armament


1 × 20 mm MG-151/20 cannon
2 × .50 Colt Browning M2 machine guns with 650 rounds per gun
2 × 50 kg (110 lb) bombs or 4 × 5 in HVAR missiles
Crew: one pilot

 

Ikarus 213 "Vihor"


General characteristics


-Crew: 2
-Length: 11.52 m (37 ft 10 in)
-Wingspan: 11.0 m (36 ft 1 in)
-Height: 3.58 m (11 ft 9 in)
-Gross weight: 2,300 kg (5,071 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Ranger SVG-770C-1B air-cooled inverted V12 engine, 390 kW (520 hp)


Performance


-Maximum speed: 362 km/h (225 mph; 195 kn)
-Stall speed: 118 km/h (73 mph; 64 kn)
-Service ceiling: 7,000 m (23,000 ft)


Armament


-Guns: 2× machine guns
-Bombs: 2× 50 kg (110 lb) or 4× 25 kg (55 lb) bombs

 

Ikarus IO


-Modification IO
-Wingspan: 15,20m
-Length: 10,40m
-Height: 3,52m
-Wing area, 47,50m²
-Weight in kg:
- empty: 1520kg

-maximum takeoff weight:  2450kg
-Engine: type 1 PD Librerti L-12
-Power, hp 1 x 400
-Maximum speed:  170 km/h
-Cruising speed: 145 km/h
-Practical range: 600km
-Practical ceiling: 4500m
-Crew: 3 people
-Weapon: one mobile front 7.7-mm Darne machine gun
-up to 250 kg of light bombs

 


Rogožarski:


Rogožarski Ik-3 (1st prototype)


General characteristics


Crew: 1
-Length: 8 m (26 ft 3 in)
-Wingspan: 10.3 m (33 ft 10 in)
-Height: 3.25 m (10 ft 8 in)
-Wing area: 16.5 m2 (178 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 2,048 kg (4,515 lb)
-Gross weight: 2,630 kg (5,798 lb)
-Fuel capacity: 330 l (73 imp gal; 87 US gal)
-Powerplant: 1 × Avia-built Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs liquid-cooled V-12 piston engine (980 hp (730 kW) at 5,000 m (16,000 ft))
-Propellers: 3-bladed adjustable pitch


Performance


-Maximum speed: 527 km/h (327 mph; 285 kn)
-Cruise speed: 400 km/h (249 mph; 216 kn)
-Range: 785 km (488 mi; 424 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 9,400 m (30,800 ft)
-Time to altitude: 7 minutes to 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
-Wing loading: 159.4 kg/m2 (32.6 lb/sq ft)


Armament


-1 × Oerlikon FF 20 mm cannon
-2 × 7.92 mm Browning/FN machine guns with 500 rounds per gun

 

Rogožarski Ik-3 (1st production series)


-mostly same as 1st prototype
-new cockpit
-lenght increased from 7,85 m to 8,0 m
-speed: 535 km/h


Rogožarski Ik-3 (2nd production series)


-mostly same as 1st prototype and 1st production series
-lenght increased to 8,10 m
-speed: 540 km/h

 

Rogožarski IK-5


Modification: IK-5
Wing span:  12,13m
Length:  10,02m
Height: unknown
Wing area: unknown
Weight: unknown
Engine: type 2 PD Hispano-Suisa H.38 \ 39
Power: hp 2 x 820
Maximum speed: 690 km/h
Cruising speed: unknown
Practical range: 1340km
Rate of climb: 1000m/min
Practical ceiling: 11000m
Crew: 1
Armament: two 20-mm cannons and four 7.92-mm machine guns
the bomb load is 200 kg.

 

Rogožarski PVT


crew: 2
lenght: 7,38m
wing span: 11,20km
height: 2,10 m
wing area: 22,10m²
weight (empty): 965 kg
maximum takeoff weight: 1310 kg
cruising speed: unknown     
maximum speed: 240 km/h     
practical ceiling: 7000 m     
range:    550 km     
engine:     1 × 7-cylinder radial engine Gnome-Rhône 7K Titan Major; 310 kW (421 PS)
armament: 1 synchronised 7,7-mm-MG

 

Rogožarski PVT-H (floatplane version)


crew: 2
lenght: 8,25 m
wing span: 11,20 m
height: 3,15 m
wing area: 22,10 m²
weight (empty): 1150 kg
maximum takeoff weight: 1510 kg
cruising speed: unknown
maximum speed: 235 km/h
practical ceiling: 6360 m
range: 450 km
engine: 1 × 7-cylinder radial engine Gnome-Rhône 7K Titan Major; 310 kW (421 PS)
armament: 1 synchronised 7,7-mm-MG

 

Rogožarski R-100


General characteristics


-Crew: 1
-Length: 7.35 m (24 ft 1 in)
-Wingspan: 10.20 m (33 ft 6 in)
-Height: 3.00 m (9 ft 10 in)
-Wing area: 20.56 m2 (221.3 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 1,024 kg (2,258 lb)
-Gross weight: 1,326 kg (2,923 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Gnome-Rhône 7K 7-cylinder radial, 313 kW (420 hp)
-Propellers: 2-bladed


Performance


-Maximum speed: 260 km/h (162 mph; 140 kn) 251 at sea level
-Range: 473 km (294 mi; 255 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 7,750 m (25,430 ft)
-Rate of climb: 5.42 m/s (1,067 ft/min)


Armament


-Guns: 1 x 7,7 mm Darne
-Bombs: 1 x 100 kg

 

Rogožarski R-313


General characteristics


-Crew: 2
-Length: 11.00 m (36 ft 1 in)
-Wingspan: 13.00 m (42 ft 8 in)
-Height: 2.68 m (8 ft 10 in)
-Wing area: 26.40 m2 (284.2 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 2,950 kg (6,504 lb)
-Gross weight: 4,270 kg (9,414 lb)
-Powerplant: 2 × Walter Sagitta inverted air-cooled V-12 piston engines, 368 kW (493 hp)        each
-Propellers: 3-bladed


Performance


-Maximum speed: 376 km/h (234 mph; 203 kn) 450 at sea level
-Range: 1,000 km (621 mi; 540 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 8,000 m (26,000 ft)
-Rate of climb: 8.33 m/s (1,640 ft/min)


Armament


-1 × 20-mm-Hispano-Suiza HS.404
-1 × 7,92-mm-MG M.38 Browning FN
-up to 400 kg of Bombs

 

Rogožarski SIM-XVI-H


General characteristics


Crew: 3
Length: 11.20 m (36 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 15.20 m (49 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.48 m (14 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 3,756 m2 (40,430 sq ft)
Empty weight: 2,230 kg (4,916 lb)
Gross weight: 3,350 kg (7,385 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Argus As-10c (Argus As-10e) 8-cylinder V-line, 180 kW (240 hp) each


Performance


Maximum speed: 208 km/h (129 mph; 112 kn) 243 at sea level
Minimum control speed: 93 km/h (58 mph; 50 kn)
Range: 840 km (522 mi; 454 nmi)
Service ceiling: 4,340 m (14,240 ft)
Rate of climb: 3.87 m/s (762 ft/min) to 1,000 m (3,281 ft)


Armament


guns: 2x7,9 mm
bombs: 1 х 100 kg; or 2 x 50 kg; or 12 x 12 kg

 

 

Zmaj:


Zmaj R-1


General characteristics


-Crew: 3–4
-Length: 12.78 m (41 ft 11 in)
-Wingspan: 14.40 m (47 ft 3 in)
-Height: 2.50 m (8 ft 2 in)
-Wing area: 33.80 m2 (363.8 sq ft)
-Empty weight: 2,600 kg (5,732 lb)
-Gross weight: 5,094 kg (11,230 lb)
-Max takeoff weight: 5,664 kg (12,487 lb)
-Powerplant: 2 × Hispano-Suiza 14AB 14-cyl. air-cooled radial piston engine, 552 kW (740 hp) each
-Propellers: 3-bladed


Performance


-Maximum speed: 450 km/h (280 mph; 243 kn)
-Cruise speed: 320 km/h (199 mph; 173 kn)
-Range: 1,000 km (621 mi; 540 nmi)
-Service ceiling: 10,000 m (33,000 ft)
-Rate of climb: 5.55 m/s (1,093 ft/min)


Armament


-Guns: 2x 20 mm (0.787 in) Oerlikon cannon, and 4x 7.9 mm (0.311 in) machine guns
-Bombs: 1,600 kg (3,500 lb) of bombs carried internally

 

 

Soko:


Soko 552:


General characteristics


-Crew: two
-Length: 9.2 m (30 ft 2 in)
-Wingspan: 11.0 m (36 ft)
-Height: 3.58 m (11 ft 9 in)
-Max. takeoff weight: 2,400 kg (5,280 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Pratt & Whitney R-1340-AN-1 Wasp air-cooled, 441 kW (600 hp)


Performance


-Maximum speed: 351 km/h (190 knots, 218 mph)
-Range: 978 km (524 nmi, 603 mi)
-Service ceiling: 7,000 m (22,960 ft)


Armament


-2 x 7.9 mm machine guns
-4 x 50 kg bombs

 

Soko J-20 "Kraguj" (eng: sparrowhawk):


General characteristics


-Crew: 1
-Length: 7.93 m (26 ft 0¼ in)
-Wingspan: 10.64 m (34 ft 11 in)
-Height: 3.00 m (9 ft 10in)
-Wing area: 17.0 m² (183 ft²)
-Airfoil: NACA 4415
-Empty weight: 1130 kg (2,491 lb)
-Max. takeoff weight: 1624 kg (3,580 lb)
-Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming GSO-480-B1A6 6-cylinder air cooled horizontally opposed, 254 kW (340 hp)


Performance


-Maximum speed: 295 km/h (159 knots, 183 mph) at 1,500 m (5,000 ft)
-Cruise speed: 280 km/h (151 knots, 174 mph)
-Stall speed: 88 km/h (48 knots 55 mph)
-Range: 800 km (475 NM, 500 mi)


Armament


-Guns: 2 × 7.7 mm Colt–Browning Mk.II machine guns (650 rounds each)
-Rockets: 2 × 12 round rocket pack or 6 × 57 mm or 127 mm rocket
-Bombs: 2 × 100 kg (220 lb) bombs

 

Soko J-21 "Jastreb":


Type (Usage):                                       Groundattacker
Crew:                                                     1 pilot
Engine:                                                  one Rolls-Royce Viper 531 with 13,20 kN
Wingspan:                                              11,68m
Lenght:                                                   10,88m
Hight:                                                      3,61m
Wingarea:                                              19,43m²
Weight (Empty):                                      2694kg
Maximum takeoff weight:                         5100kg
Top Speed:                                             724 km/h
Climb rate:                                              22,3 m/s
Cealing:                                                  12.000m
Range:                                                   1150km
Armament:                                             -3 x 12,7-mm-MG Colt-Browning M3 (135 rounds per MG)                                                                             
                                                              -up to 800kg of bombs
                                                              -unguided rockets in pods on 2 - 8 hardpoints

 

 

III. Tech tree


Rank I.        Hawker Fury                                           R-100                                            Ikarus-IO


                   Rogožarski PVT                                      R-313


                   Rogožarski PVT-H (floatplane)


Rank II.        Ik-213                                                        Hawker Hurricane                         Bristol Blenheim


                    Ik-2                                                            Yak-1                                            Rogožarski R-SIM-XVI-H

 

Rank III.        Ik-3 (prototype)                                         Bf-109 E3a                                   Ik-5


                     Ik-3 (1st production series)                       Yak-3
                     Ik-3 (2nd production series)


Rank IV.        S-49 A                                                                                                            Zmaj R-1
                     S-49 C                                                                                                            Ikarus Orkan
                                                                                                                                            Soko 552
                                                                                                                                            Soko J-20 "Kraguj"


Rank V.        Cl-13 F.Mk.4                                              F-84 G-21 RE                                Soko J-21 "Jastreb"

 

 

 

 


IV. Sources


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlkkEBQg5As&t=160s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_IK-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_S-49
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_Orkan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_IO
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/flyboat/ikarusio.html
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/ik5.html
https://www.plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/ikarus-ik-2/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utva_213_Vihor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_SIM-XIV-H
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_PVT
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_PVT
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_PWT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-313
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-313
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_R-100
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://www.plane-encyclopedia.com/ww2/rogozarski-ik-3/
https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogožarski_IK-3
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zmaj_R-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zmaj_R-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-20_Kraguj
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_J-21_Jastreb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_522
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soko_522

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Could you add some spoilers to that post, please? Walls of text blind my brain. :P

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